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A cool looking Capped Bust Half - grade revealed on 6-18....

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I could definitely see it being proof or PL at the least (It appears to have a cameo type presence as well). Definitely a nicely struck coin.

If I had to guess I'd say it's a 64 and I'll go with PL

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Hard to tell grade due to the glare, not able to see if there's any rub on the devices. I would suspect that if there is rub it's due to being in a drawer and stored that way. The fields just look too clean to have been in circulation.

 

Again, a coin that could go anywhere from AU58 - MS66!

 

My guess is that it went MS65, and yes, it's PL but I don't think they designated that.

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From the pics, there could even be enough luster missing in the fields to warrant an AU-55 grade... :devil:

 

Could just be an MS 62 or 63 PL. But then again, I have not seen a PL designation before on a CBH. So maybe this one is just cool and Mark is messing with our heads a bit. hm

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You can't really tell anything from these photos. This 1862 silver dollar was shot from two angles. Which coin do like better? It's the problem with trying to a Mint State or a Proof coin. You can make and educated guess, but you have really got to see those coins in person.

 

1862DollarO.jpg1862DollarOPr.jpg

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Really can't tell anything from those pics. Could be AU, could be Gem. Could be Proof, could be prooflike. Might be nice, might be ugly. Just can't tell anything.

 

 

 

I agree!

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Just remember this is a test, he is always testing us ;)

 

...if this had been an actual grading competition, local broadcasters in your area would direct you to your nearest coin shops...this is only a test....

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From the pics, there could even be enough luster missing in the fields to warrant an AU-55 grade... :devil:

 

Could just be an MS 62 or 63 PL. But then again, I have not seen a PL designation before on a CBH. So maybe this one is just cool and Mark is messing with our heads a bit. hm

 

Considering it looks like an O-101 to me, and that I know how the O-101 looks in early die states...

 

NGC MS61PL

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(Deep blue glass fields :cloud9: )

 

 

 

...I'm guessing that Mark's coin is Prooflike, though PCGS does not use that designation on anything other than Morgan dollars. I will go with an MS grade, though I cant say a specific grade from the images.

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I'd have to say that even with the bad pics that Mark put up, his looks nicer than yours. No offense! But yours looks to be a bit mushier strike and the fields have chatter. Digging the PL fields though!!!!!!!!!

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Now I would say MS somethingish. Depending on luster etc, 62 to 65...a PL designation may be in order...

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High points on the obverse look to be a bit flat, but based on the photos of the MS-61 posted earlier, I actually think this strike is better, albeit still a bit weak. Based on the previous photos, I still think the coin is PL based on the other photos.

 

I'll stick with my 65 PL, but no designation for PL because it's in a PCGS slab.

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I'd have to say that even with the bad pics that Mark put up, his looks nicer than yours. No offense! But yours looks to be a bit mushier strike and the fields have chatter. Digging the PL fields though!!!!!!!!!

 

Well, I dont think theres any question his is nicer, I'm just showing that O-101 is known in PL ;) Also, my images are taken from the same angle as Mark's second set of pics, so you can't see the mirrors and cameo effect in my shots.

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The O-101 die pair was used for most of the 8 to 10 so-called proofs from 1834. (One is known from DM O-106--the King of Siam example--and 2 from DM O-108.) I suspect that this is one of the proofs.

 

Edit to add: "so-called" proofs because they aren't true proofs. They were presentation pieces struck from freshly polished dies.

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I've often wondered if the O-101 was one of those commissioned for the striking of specimens. However, it says in Overton that the King of Siam specimen is an O-103, and that's what I have always thought.

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