Which coin is NOT FS? Answer posted

[Raybo55]

I did my best at imaging through the holders, so I hope all of you can make a decent judgement.

 

I'm a little confussed, and a little "green" at this whole FS designation and would like some advice/information about it. Some of you might have seen the coin in question so please do not give anything away, I know Bobby (bsshog40 ) has seen it.....please don't say anything Bobby.

 

All three coins are in PCGS or NGC holders but one does not have the FS designation.

 

Guess away!

 

 

 

 

Another question, what could the "hazing" on coin #3 be from?

 

Thanks again,

Ray

[Raybo55]

BTW,

 

The coins are a 41D, 42D and a 43D.

Is there different FS standards for certain years?

 

Thanks again,

Ray

 

 

[harvey8542]

I'm going to say the first one is not FS and the 2nd and 3rd are.

[Raybo55]

One more thing, two 67's and one 66.

 

(thumbs u

[ant]

pic 3 isnt the fs top 2 are(imo). they haze looks like pvc to me.

[physics-fan3.14]

I'm going to say the first one is not FS and the 2nd and 3rd are.

 

:thumbsup: I agree.

[WoodenJefferson]

Is there different FS standards for certain years?

 

Thanks again,

Ray

 

 

I will disqualify myself because of past correspondence.

 

To answer your question, in the hobby, normally 1938-1989 only require 5 full steps in order for them to qualify for that designation.

 

The more modern Jeffersons require the 6 full steps.

 

I'm not quite sure what the grading services do reguarding years to qualify, maybe someone can carlify that part.

[Raybo55]

Is there different FS standards for certain years?

 

Thanks again,

Ray

 

 

I will disqualify myself because of past correspondence.

 

To answer your question, in the hobby, normally 1938-1989 only require 5 full steps in order for them to qualify for that designation.

 

The more modern Jeffersons require the 6 full steps.

 

I'm not quite sure what the grading services do reguarding years to qualify, maybe someone can carlify that part.

 

I almost forgot about you Wooden.......Thanks for

 

Ray

[bsshog40]

Here is a good link if you'd like to learn more about FS Jeffersons. fullstep jeffersons

[rrantique]

pic 3 isnt the fs top 2 are(imo). they haze looks like pvc to me.

 

(thumbs u not PVC

[bsshog40]

pic 3 isnt the fs top 2 are(imo). they haze looks like pvc to me.

 

(thumbs u not PVC

 

I agree with Irvin here. I've seen this type of hazing on jeffs before. Not sure what causes it, but I don't think it's damaging except for the looks.

[Raybo55]

pic 3 isnt the fs top 2 are(imo). they haze looks like pvc to me.

 

(thumbs u not PVC

 

I agree with Irvin here. I've seen this type of hazing on jeffs before. Not sure what causes it, but I don't think it's damaging except for the looks.

 

IMHO it does not look like the "haze" is on the coin, but what do I know?

 

Thanks again,

Ray

[WoodenJefferson]

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Are you sure the hazing is on the coin and not on the inside of the plastic?

 

[bsshog40]

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Are you sure the hazing is on the coin and not on the inside of the plastic?

I have seen this on the coin but you could also be right WJ. The best way to tell is to try to tilt the slab sideways and maybe shine a small light on the coin and see if the light reflects off the coin or hidden under the haze.

[TomB]

The last coin looks like a silver war nickel and this "hazing" that you see is actually quite common on these and also common on silver coins that have been stored for quite a while in paper rolls. Therefore, I would bet that the last coin had spent a number of years in a paper roll before it was sold individually.

[coinman1794]

I did my best at imaging through the holders, so I hope all of you can make a decent judgement.

 

I'm a little confussed, and a little "green" at this whole FS designation and would like some advice/information about it. Some of you might have seen the coin in question so please do not give anything away, I know Bobby (bsshog40 ) has seen it.....please don't say anything Bobby.

 

All three coins are in PCGS or NGC holders but one does not have the FS designation.

 

Guess away!

 

 

 

 

Another question, what could the "hazing" on coin #3 be from?

 

Thanks again,

Ray

 

I haven't seen the whole thread, so I don't know if its been answered yet. So...all three look at least 5 steps. #1 is 5 FS, the next 2 are 6FS. The thrid coin has haze on it that usually developes on coins sent to PCGS in pvc flips...i have had this happen on PCGS submissions. I'm not sure if the cuase is actually pvc or something else.

[Raybo55]

The last coin looks like a silver war nickel and this "hazing" that you see is actually quite common on these and also common on silver coins that have been stored for quite a while in paper rolls. Therefore, I would bet that the last coin had spent a number of years in a paper roll before it was sold individually.

 

Last coin is the 43D (thumbs u

 

Ray

[ldhair]

I'll guess #1.

[Raybo55]

Same order

 

 

 

Go figure

 

Thanks for the guesses,

 

Ray

 

 

[bsshog40]

The FS designation is tough to get Ray. The 1st & 3rd jeffs look to be 5 FS, while the #2 coin looks to have some possible merging between steps 2 & 3. Very nice Jeffs and grades BTW.

[jgrinz]

I agree with all of the GRADES and disagree with all of the designations

 

 

[RGT]

When did NGC start designating FS? That's a pretty old slab.

[Oldtrader3]

Number 3 does not appear to be full step, although apparently is. Number 2 is an old NGC type of slab but I do not know what the dates of it would be. I have an early FS nickel that is in the same generation of slab. Maybe someone else can expand on this dating.

[physics-fan3.14]

I'll bet if you resubmitted that sucker you'd get FS without any problems. I know NGC didn't start designating FBL till well into their history, so it stands to reason that FS would not have been on early slabs either.

[WoodenJefferson]

I'll bet if you resubmitted that sucker you'd get FS without any problems. I know NGC didn't start designating FBL till well into their history, so it stands to reason that FS would not have been on early slabs either.

 

I told him the same thing but I bet it would not hold the MS-67 with a FS designation, I would be willing to bet anything that it would drop a point to MS-66 with the FS if it were to be re-submitted, even if re-submitted in the original holder!

 

Of course anything is possible, it's always a gamble as to exactly how it will be returned.

[jgrinz]

I'll bet if you resubmitted that sucker you'd get FS without any problems. I know NGC didn't start designating FBL till well into their history, so it stands to reason that FS would not have been on early slabs either.

 

I told him the same thing but I bet it would not hold the MS-67 with a FS designation, I would be willing to bet anything that it would drop a point to MS-66 with the FS if it were to be re-submitted, even if re-submitted in the original holder!

 

Of course anything is possible, it's always a gamble as to exactly how it will be returned.

 

We do not want to go there ...

 

YES they will degrade the coin WITH OUT a REGRADE authorization under a designation review

 

I am SELLING ALL MY MULTI SLABS BECAUSE OF THIS POLICY

 

 

 

 

[Raybo55]

What if I crack it before I submit?

It is a beauty and IMHO might even make a 68.

 

Ray