New bigger pics of 1909-S IHC. Please comment. (Updated)

[jman425]

 

 

The actual color is closer to the reverse. I had the halogen in a different position on the obverse shot and it gave it a more orange tint.

[MunkyMan95]

Cleaned/recolored?

[rons]

It looks nicer than the one I have in my Wayte Raymond right now

[bsshog40]

So what would this be? an RB??

[Just Bob]

In your original post , a few people were concerned about the mint mark. How does it look in hand?

[jman425]

Just Bob - Compared it to Rick Snow's book and they had some counterfeit examples as reference. Looks legit to me unless some people here can see something off.

[braddick]

I have a Chinese counterfeit that, other than the color, looks exactly like yours.

[jman425]

Braddick - Can you take a pic of your fake ?

 

[James_OldeTowne]

My guess is "real", but the surfaces seem somewhat processed to me.

[BillJones]

The coin appears to be genuine, but unfortunately I'd say both sides have been cleaned and recolored. By the looks of the surfaces, it makes me wonder why somebody messed with it in the first place. The basic grade looks to be Choice EF so why fool with it? Oh well.

[MBA101]

Comparing the coin to ones sold on Heritage shows the mintmark does not line up with the dentil like on the heritage examples. I am not sure that it is real.

[MBA101]

[BillJones]

 

Here's another one. This piece eventually went into a PCGS MS-65, brown holder.

 

If there is any thing wrong with the lead coin, the "S" might be bolder than it should be. It has the right shape with "fat middle curve," but I guess an expert would have to look at this one with a 10X or even a scope to make sure.

 

 

[MBA101]

Unless there are a couple of distinctly different dies, it looks to me like the S should line up directly over a dentil. The lead coin does not have that. I only looked at 3 examples on Heritage, and then yours, Bill, so maybe that is not enough, but this lead one looks a bit off.

[jman425]

I'm at work now, but I'll post a close-up shot of the mintmark / denticle area later. The S seems to be the right shape but hard to compare due to various states of wear between samples shown (mostly MS) and my coin (VF-XF).

I will be sending this off to ANACS (in case it has been previously cleaned) to have it authenticated in the coming weeks. Just need to consolidate a few coins to save on shipping.

 

One thing though, on my coin, the left half of the first feather is weak compared to the rest of the headress. An indication that it was not an added mintmark from the 1909-P.

[chinook]

Nice coin BillJones!!!

 

I believe the coin in the OP is no good.

[TomB]

The ebay 1909-S has a really odd "feel" to it that would scare me away.

[jman425]

Close up of mintmasrk and denticles.

 

Close up of 3 1/4 diamonds.

[Oldtrader3]

It apears to me to have small spark erosion (raised marks) spiking from the top of the letters on the reverse, particularly the "N" & "E" in ONE. I would have to look at it under magnification, though. However, I am not an expert on 09-S cents.

[jman425]

It's a counterfeit ! See my other post for details.

Going back to the seller on Monday.

[braddick]

It's a counterfeit ! See my other post for details.

Going back to the seller on Monday.

 

It appears, even without my 'evidence' you've made the discovery on your own.

[jman425]

I found another coin on Ebay that looks similar to mine. I directed him to this site. The "S" mintmark and the wear pattern on the shield is almost identical.