Mint employess creating Errors?? No way!!

[bsshog40]

This subject has been brought up before and the accusations made on mint employees causing these. Some interesting nfo in an article I found. And some info on error coins themselves.

 

How many coins are produced all over the world? Nobody knows for sure, but since the United States Mint alone strikes more than 50 million coins on a daily basis we would be right to assume that the amount is in the billions each year. Whenever that much of anything is produced there are bound to be errors made. Modern coins are struck at such a high rate of speed that the human eye can barely perceive it. The fastest of the new coin presses can strike nearly ten coins per second! If these coins are somehow incorrect, the only way to spot the error is by examining the finished pieces after they fall into the receiving hopper. While this is done on an occasional basis, the day-to-day reality of producing millions of coins is that all but a very few United States coins are shipped without any visual inspection.

 

To help prevent error coins from leaving the mints or even from being produced in the first place, each coining facility has installed riddling devices. These are mechanical sifters that cull out undersize, oversize and mis-shapen planchets and coins. In theory, this should prevent all but normally-sized and normally-shaped coins from leaving the mint, but the evidence found in the error coins themselves proves otherwise. Though most of the errors that manage to pass through the mints' quality control stations are of approximately normal configuration, some wildly oversize or mis-shapen pieces do escape. This is sometimes no accident, as mint employees have been caught selling error coins to collectors and dealers for a nice profit.

 

Dealers and collectors of mint errors classify each piece under one of three headings: Planchet, Die or Strike. This handy "P-D-S" system is easy to remember, and it can account for just about any type of error one encounters. Of course, some coins are the product of multiple errors. For example, a defective planchet can lead to a mis-strike, with the resulting coin being the product of both "P" and "S" errors. For the most part, however, mint error coins fall under just one of the three headings.

 

Error coins can be worth their weight in gold-and sometimes a whole lot more. They are often many times more valuable than perfect, error-free coins because they're much scarcer, and also because mint-error collecting has grown by leaps and bounds in recent years, to the point where it is now one of the rare coin hobby's most active specialty areas. Thousands of collectors aggressively pursue imperfect coins, and when they find an error that's exceptionally dramatic in a dealer's display case, they gladly pay a very strong premium to obtain it.

 

[MunkyMan95]

Why do you think that both the blank with edge lettering, and the Sacagawea with edge lettering came out of the Denver Mint, and none have been recorded out of Philadelphia?

[cpm9ball]

Why do you think that both the blank with edge lettering, and the Sacagawea with edge lettering came out of the Denver Mint, and none have been recorded out of Philadelphia?

 

Because the Philadelphia workers are very near to sea level, and the thinner air at 5,000 feet affects the marijuana smokers in Denver more than it does their counterparts on the east coast.

 

Chris

[MunkyMan95]

Why do you think that both the blank with edge lettering, and the Sacagawea with edge lettering came out of the Denver Mint, and none have been recorded out of Philadelphia?

 

Because the Philadelphia workers are very near to sea level, and the thinner air at 5,000 feet affects the marijuana smokers in Denver more than it does their counterparts on the east coast.

 

Chris

 

[rons]

So thats what they mean by a Rocky Mountain "high"

[Coin]

Why do you think that both the blank with edge lettering, and the Sacagawea with edge lettering came out of the Denver Mint, and none have been recorded out of Philadelphia?

 

Because the Philadelphia workers are very near to sea level, and the thinner air at 5,000 feet affects the marijuana smokers in Denver more than it does their counterparts on the east coast.

 

Chris

 

Well, there ya go !

So , that's why the ANA HEADquarters is in Colorado .

[DC Dawg]

Why do you think that both the blank with edge lettering, and the Sacagawea with edge lettering came out of the Denver Mint, and none have been recorded out of Philadelphia?

Without getting into the "Rocky Mountain High," in Philadelphia, the Sac dollars are struck on a line that does not include an edge lettering machine. Since Denver is a smaller facility than Philadelphia, all dollars are struck on the same production line and it is possible for a coin to get "stuck" in the conveyor during change overs between striking Sacs and Prez dollars.

 

The Mint does not make these errors on purpose. Why you would think that just because a few nickels were made in 1913 with an old design or the family of an allegedly not-so-scrupulous dealer found a number of unreleased 1933 gold coins doesn't mean the Mint does these things on purpose!

 

Scott

[carson city]

Accidents happen, get used to it----Maria Osmond

[Conder101]

Why do you think that both the blank with edge lettering, and the Sacagawea with edge lettering came out of the Denver Mint, and none have been recorded out of Philadelphia?

Let's see, I believe there is only one of each so far, and once one was produced there was about a 50% chance that the other one would come from the same mint. And that is just taking random chance into account. As Scott B says there can be circumstances that may make their production at one mint more likely than at another.

[World Colonial]

I would expect (but do not know) that the US mint would use statisitical sampling in their quality control process to check for these errors. I do not have the sampling tables at my disposal, but this would permit looking at a very small fraction of the total quantity which should mean that the number of error coins which leave the mint is very small.