GRADE POSTED! Guess the Grade: 1825 Capped Bust half-dollar

[James_OldeTowne]

Dead-on accurate image. I do not agree with the grade on this coin, but would like to see your opinions. Guess the slab too, if you wish.

 

[kryptonitecomics]

PCGS EF45? Looks AU to me

[123cents]

The coin looks AU-50 to me but by your comments it must have graded lower.

[MBA101]

Looks like what has been called AU-55 in terms of wear. I would say it should be AU50-55 depending on what luster it has.

[jtryka]

I will guess VF-35

[relicsncoins]

XF-40, but should be in a 45 holder. I think it's lacking luster to recieve anything higher than a 45.

 

JJ

[okbustchaser]

Looks like an "old-style" XF, but for several years now these have been going into AU 50 to 55 holders.

 

 

 

[jesbroken]

IMHO--PCGS EF45 O-115

 

beautiful original coin (may grade AU today)

[jman425]

I'm gonna guess PCGS EF45, but I don't know much about this coin.

[RGT]

I really like that one. I can't see the luster but I'll call it AU50 anyway.

[TomB]

That looks like an attractive coin.

[MikeInFL]

AU 53 because I can't decide between 50 and 55.

[James_OldeTowne]

... and the answer is:

 

PCGS XF-45 !

 

In my opinion, the proper grade should be EF-40, as the coin has no luster at all. That is how I will grade it on my website. But I really learned a lot from the varying opinions. THANKS!

 

My attribution is O-115, as someone else was kind enough to confirm for me.

[kryptonitecomics]

So I won

 

Thanks James...I will PM my address

[MBA101]

... and the answer is:

 

PCGS XF-45 !

 

In my opinion, the proper grade should be EF-40, as the coin has no luster at all. That is how I will grade it on my website. But I really learned a lot from the varying opinions. THANKS!

 

My attribution is O-115, as someone else was kind enough to confirm for me.

 

I can see it as a 45. But it is a heavily toned coin, and that should not lower the grade. In fact I can see how it would grade AU as well. The wear to me is lite enough to make this a great specimen, and if someone wanted to price it as an EF 40, it is a steal IMO.

[CarolinaCollector]

My guess is XF-45.

[Revenant]

My guess is XF-45.

 

No props for saying it after he gave away the answer.

[RI AL]

Nice coin to be sure. How come PCGS will grade darkly toned coins such as this (I like deep toning) but labels deeply toned large cents "environmental damage"?

 

RI AL

[jman425]

I'm gonna guess PCGS EF45, but I don't know much about this coin.

Not bad for a newb, eh?

[TomB]

Deeply toned large cents will be graded by PCGS, but those that are dark because they are corroded will get bagged as environmentally damaged.

[MikeInFL]

Nice coin to be sure. How come PCGS will grade darkly toned coins such as this (I like deep toning) but labels deeply toned large cents "environmental damage"?

 

Al,

 

I don't think you can make blanket statements like PCGS "labes deeply toned large cents 'environmental damage'". Toning on copper comes in many flavors, and beyond a point (as Tom says, when toning becomes corrosion), PCGS will often label them environmental damage.

 

Getting past that, it is important to understand that there are different standards between bust halves (a silver coin) and large cents (copper coins) in where the TPGs draw the line on "environmental damage" as a reason for a bodybag. This line is often different for different dates, much less different series and base metals.

 

For instance, PCGS tends to be much, much more lenient on difficult dates, for instance 1799 large cent, than they would be for a common date, like an 1855.

 

It is also worth noting that the line between a bagged coin and a slabbed one is a fine one, and the same coin, if graded multiple times, could be slabbed some of the time and bagged others.

 

All IMHO and respectfully submitted...Mike

[lkenefic]

should go 50 but by your comments...did it bb for the hit on the nose??

[James_OldeTowne]

It is in a PCGS holder already. The ding by the nose is a slight distraction, too, as you note.

[Mozin]

With no luster, I would expect this coin to earn a grade of XF40 from PCGS. NGC would go at least XF45.