So-Called Dollars missing in action -- do you have pics for any of these

[jonathanb-migration]

As we try to move the new So-Called Dollars book into shut-down mode, there are still some listings where we can't locate any pictures. We still have a few more leads to check out, but things are not looking good for these.

If you have pictures of any of these So-Called Dollars or you know where we might be able to get them, we'd be very intersted in hearing from you. Please contact me through the board here, or through the website above.

7	1853	POLICE-ALL NATIONS DOLLAR
33	1876	SILOAM M. E. CHURCH $	obv. Liberty bell as #23 / rev. Siloam M E Church
34	1876	CUMBERLAND ST M. E. CHURCH $	obv. Liberty bell as#23 / rev. Cumberland st church
35-36	1876	BAPTIST SUNDAY SCHOOL $	obv Liberty bell as#23 / rev. Baptist Sun. School
47	1876	IND. HALL- AMERICAN STAR $	obv. As rev.#27 / rev. Star as in #60
62-64	1876	CENTENNIAL FOUNTAIN DOLLAR	obv. Fountain / rev. blank scrolls
73	1876	ABRAHAM LINCOLN DOLLAR	KING-505
114f-114g	c1861	UNITY OF GOVERNMENT $	B-264F (UNIFACE) BLANK REVERSE
133-133d	c1860	GENERAL ANTHONY WAYNE	rev. Alfred S Robinson's historical series No. 1
143-143a	1884-5	MARDI GRAS DOLLAR	obv. Seal of Mardi-Gras / rev. World Globe (33mm)
143d	1884-5	N.O. FIRE DEPT. SEMI-CENTENNIAL	obv. N.O. fire engine / rev as HK-143 (33mm)
163	1892	NEW METAL ALUMINUM $
167a	1893	BIRD'S EYE VIEW DOLLAR	obv. View of expo / rev. 3 edifices
205	1893	EXHIBITION HALL DOLLAR	obv. As rev#168 / rev. as rev.#171 5 expo blgs.
235	1892	COLUMBUS BUST DOLLAR	Eglit-308
257	(1894)	STATE SEAL-FACTS OF SF	obv. State seal / rev. facts about SF
286a	1898	AVENGERS OF THE MAINE
352a	1908	US NAVY WORLD VOYAGE	octagonal
368a	1909	MANUFACTURES BLG. $	obv. Same as 368 / rev (manufacturfs) sp. Error
434	1915	U. S GRANT HOTEL $	obv. Same as 433 / rev. US Grant hotel
480	1939	LORD'S PRAYER $ CATHOLIC	obv. Different than 479 / rev. same as 479a
492	1939	NY WF PALLADIUM DOLLAR
502	c1949	SACRAMENTO DOLLAR
521	1958	MURRAY CO. DOLLAR
522	1958	NORMAN CO. DOLLAR
524	1958	STATE BAR ASSOCIATION $
525a	1958	WINONA CO. DOLLAR
537	1959	HAWAII DOLLAR (UNIFACE)
607	1886	26TH ANN. FAIR AT ST. LOUIS
617a	1890	SCHUYLKILL CO. CW MNMT.
625	1892	BUNCOMBE CO. CENTENNIAL
636	1896	DAYTON CENTENNIAL
657	1911	MINNEAPOLIS CIVIC CELB.
660	1912	CALIFORNIA ADMISSION DAY
664	1915	CHICOPEE 25TH ANNIV.
675	1930	BOSTON TERCENTENARY
715	1960	JACKSON CITY HALL
727	c1959	OLIVIA SPRING HOME SHOW
742a	1951	VIRTUE BROS. MANUFACTURING
744	1953	NORTH AMERICAN AVIATION	Counterstamped with numeral 2
746a	1957	BORDEN & CO. (UNIFACE)
751a	1959	MARKING DEVICE ASSOC.
761-762	1891	STONEWALL JACKSON STATUE
769	1901	JOHN G FEE
803-804c	1908	"TAFT" GOLD BASIS DOLLAR
826	1933	PEDLEY RYAN DOLLAR	obv. Pedley-Ryan & Co 1 line / rev. same as 825
839	1897	ALASKA GOLD-PINCH SERIES	head facing left / 13 stars / octagonal
840	1897	ALASKA GOLD-PINCH SERIES	head facing left / 16 stars / octagonal
841	1898	ALASKA GOLD-PINCH SERIES	head facing right / 16 stars / round
842	1898	ALASKA GOLD-PINCH SERIES	head facing right / 13 stars / round
845	1899	ALASKA GOLD-PINCH SERIES	head facing right / 16 stars / round
846	1899	ALASKA GOLD-PINCH SERIES	head facing left / 13 stars / octagonal
847	1899	ALASKA GOLD-PINCH SERIES	head facing right / 16 stars / octagonal
848	1900	ALASKA GOLD-PINCH SERIES	head facing right / 16 stars / octagonal
849	1901	ALASKA GOLD-PINCH SERIES	head facing right / 16 stars / octagonal
851	1911	ALASKA GOLD-PARKA HEAD	head facing right / 10 stars / round
861-862b	1917	CONTINENTAL $ UNIFACE
863d	c1876	PERSEVERANDO DOLLAR	rev. 60.965.269 34/90 April 11th 1778
864	c1876	EAGLE & HERON DOLLAR
1009	1897	BICKFORD DOLLAR	Grant's Tomb / Eight links
1011	1896	BRYAN DOLLAR - UNIFACE
1012	1896	BRYAN DOLLAR - GEORGE FORD	S-9 George H. Ford Co. New Haven CT
1013	c1900	BRYAN DOLLAR - UNIFACE	S-11 Gorham obv. Is rev. wheel of S-10 (uniface)
1014	1900	BRYAN DOLLAR - MONTGOMERY	S-13 Montgomery Bros. Los Angeles CA
1015	1900	BRYAN DOLLAR

...and since that list is pretty hard to read with the limited formatting available on the board here, I've also uploaded the same list as an Excel spreadsheet. The Excel spreadsheet additionally has a couple of lists of entries where we do have pictures, but wouldn't mind better ones.

FWIW, there are 65 entries on the list above. In thte 1963 edition there were 667 design types (by my count), and 556 of them had pictures. So we're definitely ahead of the game. We can certainly go to press with what we have. It would be nice to fill a few more holes, though. We wlll certainly give credit to anyone who provides pictures.

Thanks for any help on this project!

jonathan

[EZ_E]

I certainly hope that the boardsters pony up. This is a great undertaking and will do wonders for the SCD market!

[cpm9ball]

I can't help you with any of those on your list, Jonathan, but do you have an advance sign-up list for a copy of the new book? I'll pay cash in advance if necessary.

 

Yeah, I know................take it to the Marketplace................do you know how long I have waited for this?

 

Chris

[rrantique]

I can't help you with any of those on your list, Jonathan, but do you have an advance sign-up list for a copy of the new book? I'll pay cash in advance if necessary.

 

Yeah, I know................take it to the Marketplace................do you know how long I have waited for this?

 

Chris

 

Chris i believe it is in this Link. (thumbs u

http://www.so-calleddollars.com/For_Sale.pdf

[EZ_E]

Chris, are there none from the list on the CD you got off of ebay?

[jonathanb-migration]

EZ_E, if you're referring to the CD produced by Victor Annaloro, he has given us permission to use his pictures. Unless we missed something (always possible), there shouldn't be anything still on that list above that can be filled from his CD.

 

At the moment, it's looking like we'll be including pictures from over two dozen contributors, to whom we are very grateful.

 

jonathan

[EZ_E]

Jonathan, that's the one I was talking about.

 

Well, I sincerely hope that you fill in the blanks. Good luck! (thumbs u

[cpm9ball]

Jonathan, I just remembered that I had some dealings with one eBay seller who regularly has many SCD's listed. I can't remember his name, but his eBay username is "coins-tokens-medals". I don't know if you are familiar with him, but maybe he could help.

 

Chris

[jackson64]

I didn't see this one on your web-site. From 1955 {purchased from the John J Ford Collection via Stack's Rarities} a SC$1 from the Gasparilla Pirate Fest--it is part of my Signature Set of Sailing Ship coins called High Seas {username Jackson}....you have my permission to use the coin images for any reason you want...I am looking forward to your new so-called dollars book..JAX

[BillJones]

I could show you what some of the Bryan dollars generally, but I don't have those specific pieces. I think that some of those items were created after the original issues, and are kind of like vanity pieces. I would not place much store by them, but my interests lie more in history and less in things that were made as novelties.

[jesbroken]

Hey Jonathonb-I have a type VI Pedley Ryan Dollar HK-827 Uncirculated condition if that would be of any help. Great job, I wish you the best of luck garnering your photo's.

[thebeav]

Jonathan,

Here is a guy with a web site devoted to California gold and similar tokens . He may have the Alaska gold pictures you are searching for. His name is Mike Locke and he always seems to be anxious to advance the hobby in any way possible.

I just looked at the Alaska gold tokens he shows here and there are quite a few.....

http://users.scronline.com/lockem/

 

Paul

[jonathanb-migration]

cpm-9-ball -- Yes, we've contacted coins-tokens-medals, but I wasn't the one who did the contacting so I don't have more details.

 

jackson64 -- I'm pretty sure that piece postdates 1961. We've got a lot on our plate for this edition, and we're not going to be able to expand the scope of coverage as much as we should (and as much as we'd like). We're adding some very closely related new pieces (for example, we're adding the Gasparilla piece with the 1904-1954 dates to accompany the one without the dates), but that's as far as we can go and still get something published in a time frame that doesn't make us all go crazy...

 

jesbroken -- We have good pictures of HK-827, thanks. There are actually two varieties, with the Robbins text above and below the Pedley text. We have pictures for both.

 

thebeav -- Yes, we're in contact with Mike Locke. He points out that there are a LOT of other small gold tokens that we should be adding. He's right, but if we're going to get anything published, we have to hold the line somewhere. It seems like we've found the cutoff that makes everyone equally unhappy, so we must be doing the right thing... :-}

 

jonathan

 

[cpm9ball]

It seems like we've found the cutoff that makes everyone equally unhappy, so we must be doing the right thing... :-}

 

jonathan

 

:o :o :o

 

What is the cut-off date that will make me so unhappy?

 

Chris

[jonathanb-migration]

We've posted on the web site that we're aiming for availability at the beginning of next year. The publisher needs some time to do the publishing. How much time is a tradeoff between squeezing in as much as we can and making sure that what we do have in is fully proofed and accurate.

 

The deadline might be as soon as the end of this month, but I'm hoping we can make some small changes through November.

[cpm9ball]

We've posted on the web site that we're aiming for availability at the beginning of next year. The publisher needs some time to do the publishing. How much time is a tradeoff between squeezing in as much as we can and making sure that what we do have in is fully proofed and accurate.

 

The deadline might be as soon as the end of this month, but I'm hoping we can make some small changes through November.

 

I should have been more specific. The original book catalogued SCD's into the 1950's. With this second book, how far forward will you go for new specimens? 1970's? 1980's? 1990's?

 

Chris

[jonathanb-migration]

Ah, sorry, I misunderstood the question. We are maintaining the same 1961 cutoff date in the upcoming edition. This is mostly a sideeffect of the decision only to add new listings that are very closely related to existing ones. Almost all of the new listings are for the same event as an existing listing, which usually implies that they're the same year. Preserving the same cutoff just follows as a result.

 

It is going to be a MONUMENTAL undertaking to extend the date forward. There are thousands of pieces for the Bicentennial, if not tens of thousands, that would qualify based on size and subject matter.

 

jonathan

[cpm9ball]

Ah, sorry, I misunderstood the question. We are maintaining the same 1961 cutoff date in the upcoming edition. This is mostly a sideeffect of the decision only to add new listings that are very closely related to existing ones. Almost all of the new listings are for the same event as an existing listing, which usually implies that they're the same year. Preserving the same cutoff just follows as a result.

 

It is going to be a MONUMENTAL undertaking to extend the date forward. There are thousands of pieces for the Bicentennial, if not tens of thousands, that would qualify based on size and subject matter.

 

jonathan

 

This is a bit disappointing for me. When I first read about the SCDCC plans to update the book, I was left with the impression that the new book would include specimens from more recent years. I agree that it would be a monumental task to add everything that has been produced since 1961, but as time continues to move along, it becomes even more difficult. Can I look forward to this being undertaken any time in the near future?

 

Chris

[jonathanb-migration]

The current project is being undertaken separately from the So-Called Dollar Collectors Club (but with the participation of the original publisher of the 1963 edition, which is the only way that it is feasible at all). The larger project by the SCDCC is ongoing, and will not be delayed by the current project. On the other hand, the larger project has been ongoing for five (?) years now, and there's no end in sight. Those of us working on the current project got tired of waiting for the full project to be completed, and decided that we could get something back into print that was vastly improved over the 1963 edition even if it wasn't complete. If the complete project reaches publication in ten or fifteen years, we can very reasonably get two or three smaller editions published by then, to tide people over until the full thing is available.

[cpm9ball]

Ah so! I didn't know that there were two separate projects.

 

Chris