WoodenJefferson Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 I found some obscur, well, not known to me anyways, information about 1964 proof dimes. It seems that in 1964 there was a small change made early on in the production of the proof Roosevelt dimes. The tail of the nine on the early proofs tapers off and is not perfectly flat and blunt like the later 9's, so it has been designated a Pointed Nine. Now, where's a good place to look for those early Pointed Nines? It has been noted that many have been found in the 1964 proof sets that also contained the Accented Hair Kennedys. Take that second look at those 1964 proof sets to see if you have this variety. First image pointy nine/second image regualr nine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MunkyMan95 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Is it valuable, or just novelty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodenJefferson Posted August 23, 2007 Author Share Posted August 23, 2007 Is it valuable, or just novelty? I have no clue...perhaps someone can enlighten us with this information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruceswar Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Population chats are very long on these. I assume they are worth a fair bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsshog40 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 That's pretty neat there WJ. I looked at my roosie I have from my 64' set with the acc. kennedy, and sure enough, the end of the 9 is pointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conder101 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 There was a big excitement over them back in 1964 and they were heavily promoted reaching prices of up to $9 apiece. And the blunt tailed 9 was worth maybe a quarter. (Doesn't sound like much but that is in 1964 dollars. Think of it as the equivalent of $90 today. Think how people would react if suddenly a 2007 dime from the current proof set was suddenly a $90 coin.) There was a lot of speculation as to what the value would go to if they were listed in the Redbook! Well that didn't happen, interest lagged, and they became just a curiosity that was eventually forgotten. Today only a very small number of people know about them. The only reason I know about them is from reading back issues of Numismatic Scrapbook Magazine. (I have about 2/3's of a complete run 1935 - 1976. It is amazing the amount of information in those old magazines that I have never seen anywhere else.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgrinz Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Look slike I will have to look closer at this one I am selling It came from a Accented set also .. cant really tell from this picture though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillJones Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Yea, unfortunately I'm old enough to remember all of that stuff about the pointed tail dime. It got FAR MORE press than the "extra curl" JFK Proof half dollar, which is since become a much more popular variety. In fact I was not even aware of the extra curl half until the mid 1980s when a group of collectors who frequented the Worthy Coin bid wall in Boston went though a untouched hoard 325 of 1964 Proof sets looking for them. The estimates were that 100,000 extra curl Proof half dollars were issued out of the almost 4 million sets that were sold that year. That comes to about 2.5% of the mintage. Sure enough they found 10 ten sets, which is statistically pretty close to the expected total from a random sample. Getting back to the pointed 9 1964 dime, it was a popular gimmick for a while, and I have seen a few references to it of late. Still, like a lot of modern coin gimmicks it died a quiet natural death as collectors moved on the next promotion. There were others. One was the 1965 “dot” cent. According to a few dealers that coin was issued by the Denver mint at the time when the mint system was not placing mint marks on any coins to discourage collector hoarding of coins. The dot cent was touted as a replacement for the D mint hole in a collection. I bet few people know about it today. There was also a promotion for the 1975-S Proof cent. The claim there was that it was lowest mintage since the 1914-D. Dealers were carefully scrutinizing every 1975-S cent to make sure it had no spots since the “perfect ones” were going to be great investments. That one died after the promotion was over too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgrinz Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 I checked mine that definitely came from an ACCENTED hair set BUT is NOT a pointed "9" So they do mix up when packaged ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsshog40 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Well now I have the acc hair and a pointed nine. HMMMM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesbroken Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 Rats-my set has the flat nine. Thanks for the info, Woody. It certainly helped Bobby and others I am sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgrinz Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 Does NGC recognize this variety to display on a slab Look at what I found Cleaning out the stash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrown4 Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 Well, Four Blunts here. Can someone post a pic of the Accented Hair Kennedy as Well. Rey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrantique Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 I believe this is one Rey. (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgrinz Posted August 26, 2007 Share Posted August 26, 2007 I believe this is one Rey There are a few diagnostics .. the other good one is the initials of the designer, he redesigned his LETTERS for this edition - A flat backed 'G' if I am not mistaken Oops along with the serif "I" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texast-migration Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 The I in Liberty will have a truncated serif at the bottom like this one in the Photo, Other diagnostics will also be found on the reverse, The FG as mentioned: And broken ray's extending from the eagle, The last two can be found on some 64 Proofs, but without the truncated serif on the I it is not an Accented Hair variety, those with the diagnostics on the back but not the front are the Transitional variety, die type 2 obverse and die type 1 reverse, this is actually more rare than the Accented Hair variety but like the Pointed 9 no one seems to care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsshog40 Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 here's Mine Rey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djdilliodon Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 I found 2 pointed 9's in proof sets i pulled accented kennedy's from. Judging from what i saw on teletrade doesnt seem worth paying the grading fee plus the $7 to get it attributed. I guess off to ebay they will go. Here is a pic for ya rey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrown4 Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 Thanks all, well no Accented Hairs in my bunch either. Rey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinstonWare Posted August 27, 2007 Share Posted August 27, 2007 Well, Four Blunts here. Rey Rey you bought 4 Blunts? Nice acquisitions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrown4 Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 Now, now I realized after I posted that, that perhaps there may be some suggestive comments from the forum. Let me just say this, these four blunts were not purchased by me, they were given to me as a gift so to speak and therefore I am not reponsible for repercussions of owning them. Other than their coin value of course. Hey Winston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldhair Posted August 28, 2007 Share Posted August 28, 2007 About 15 or so years back some were promoting 2 pc MS sets with the blunt and the pointed. You could get the P or the D set for about $7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgrinz Posted August 29, 2007 Share Posted August 29, 2007 I have mine posted for sale on Ebay .. we will soon see where it stands on Ebay as to price and market liquidity I will not post the link lest I be verbally lashed! Once again ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodenJefferson Posted August 29, 2007 Author Share Posted August 29, 2007 I have mine posted for sale on Ebay .. we will soon see where it stands on Ebay as to price and market liquidity I will not post the link lest I be verbally lashed! Once again ! Verbal Lashing Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
