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Yes, there are a lot of fake coins produced in China, and China's packaging and rating companies will even package a large number of fake coins into them, some of which are difficult to distinguish between real and fake, of course, there are also real coins, so I can only buy world coins, after all, ngc and pcgs are still relatively authoritative。By the way, a lot of world coins and Morgan, peace, etc. are much cheaper in China now than in USA and Europe, which makes it easier for me to collect coins，Of course, these coins have been encapsulated by pcgs and ngc, and I even saw the ebay300 euro coin that can be bought for 50 euros, but I didn't buy that coin because I didn't like it。

Thank you very much for your advice，ngc and pcgs encapsulated coins are very popular with us in china,I like world coin and Ancient coin very much ,Because they have history and beautiful patterns，It's very fascinating。

I won't be buying naked coins anyway , Only ngc and pcgs encapsulated coins are now purchased

It is because I like it that I pay a lot of money for it，I didn't get the real coin, only the loss, if the coin is real, I can pay a little more

Yes, it's a lesson, hopefully others don't go through my process

I returned it and the seller refunded it, but I lost about 80 euros

Thanks for your support. I will be more careful after this experience

Both ma-shop and paypal requested the return without any compensation

Because the seller has always denied that he sold the coins in the picture, this is my biggest worry, I can't get a refund if I mail it to him，paypal said it would help me get a refund if I mailed it back

Paypal said it would help me return the goods for a refund. I will apply for the return and record the whole process

The seller asks me to pay the terms, and according to the seller's rules, when the seller acknowledges that it is the same coin he will refund it, if it is not the same coin, the coin is made of gold only pay the value of the gold, if it is not made of gold he will not refund it and will not pay the postage

Still waiting, a little uncomfortable

See if there's a law that makes it a crime to refuse to accept cash, and in my country it's a crime to refuse to accept cash and you can prosecute him

waiting

Thank you very much for your support. I am currently defending my rights in paypal, and I am waiting for the result. I will let you know when the result is available.

Tell you a joke, I bought a fake currency in a fidelity platform, and the only one injured was me

I am a coin lover, I like coins very much, collecting coins makes me happy,In May this year, I bought a gold Wilhelmina 1898 10 guilders at the ma-shop for about 600€, and paid customs and ngc rating fees of about 100 € . The seller is from ma-shop Asian African Art, When I sent all the evidence to the seller, at first the seller didn't admit it was the same coin，Later, I sent a lot of evidence to prove that this is the same coin, and the seller also denied it，In the end, ma-shop gave me two choices, one is to return the money for a refund, the other is to leave the fake currency, and the seller sent me a very strict return rules, I have no rights and interests，Today, I consulted many friends, if I return the goods, it is likely that the money and goods will be gone.I decided to let everyone know that ma-shop is not true， Address of goods https://www.ma-shops.com/asianafricanart/item.php?id=2324&ref=offer

I hope you can see the practice of ma-shop, ma-shop tends to sellers rather than buyers, I lost a lot of money when I bought this fake currency, and ma-shop actually has ngc authentication on it, and also sells fake currency

I use paypal. I have submitted the evidence to paypal, hoping to get back my loss

And I have a video of the unpacking, just because the video is too big to upload