Mike Meenderink

The MS66 Indian you posted is close to the grade of my coin . Look at the hip bone on the flank its the same as mine. Mine isn't even touched. The MS 66 Indian is same grade but better luster. I don't just grade on luster and you shouldn't either. details are most important luster is secondary to me.

Sandon I agree the coin is toned but standards up to MS66 accept light or uneven toning as well as light finger marks. The luster you elude to is acceptable as "underlying" in grades below MS66 & and higher require full mint luster only.

Very Rare Indian Cent Flipped Brockage Error. Attribution and grading in progress. Amazing find.

Im standing on MS66 prove me wrong.

If its a verified listed variety or error with a certified attribution NGC will attribute it with variety plus. It may be a first attribution. You can have it attributed by a professional attribution specialist. If it is a new verified attribution listing it will be worth a boat load of money. Good luck! Keep us posted. PS: A DDO FS-101 can be on any coin and have this type of doubling on date and motto most are called FS-101 with this type of error. Most DDR coins are FS-801. Most...

Your coin is a 1972 D Kennedy 50c DDO FS-101 in AU condition. Attributed by CONECA or listed error Variety Plus service NGC. It is just a Denver mark DDO. Your coin shows visible signs of doubling on the motto north. Your coin also shows very subtle north thickening on the date and I see doubling ridges on the 7 & 2. Verification in person only. Go to a coin shop and have it examined properly. It is worth grading and slabbing if my suspicions are verified. Nice find!

Again disclaimers are to cover their butts..the holders are sonically sealed they are AIR TIGHT I've floated them in water for 3 hrs. No moisture intrusion.

Sandon the new style NGC holders are air tight. The disclaimers are there because coins got holdered with the older non sonically sealed slabs and NGC knows contaminantes may already be on the coin which then cause later imperfections. PVC damage would already be on the coin and should be non gradable. Spot hazing or milk spots are from improper mint rinse or planchet flaws which are possible on any silver coin at any moment even new ones no matter where its stored or what its stored in. Color changes are possible but sealed holders prolong this process. If you have corrosion on a holdered coin it isn't being stored properly and /or the holder is older and non airtight. Finally registering, grading and encapsulating a average coin is a form of conservation. It serves to market legitimize the coin and render it safe from further wear, damage or degradation.

The NGC holder is sonically sealed to keep out moisture, dust, contaminants and all outside oxidizing agents. Yes the air in the slab is trapped but the small amount of air can do little to the coin. Older slabs are not as well sealed. If stored properly NGC holdered coins are stable for years.The holder also conserves the coin from handling contamination, damage and discardment ( being lost or thrown away).

Well yes of course but I spread that cost out by sending multiple coins per invoice.

We all know it costs money to grade coins. Usually the money we spend is purley to authenticate, solidify the value and/or raise the value of the coin. That being said I have sometimes decided to grade a non key or non better date coin in decent condition that was not really that special. Why? Since most do not grade these coins they are in jeopardy of being lost. The worn coins with personality are important to conserve in that condition just as the perfect BU, key and better dates are. I don't do this alot but sometimes a coin just says save me. Below is an example of an orphan coin I had to save. Purchased raw for $12.00. Cost $23.00 to grade. Worth $28.00-$35.00 not so good fiscally but priceless to me that it is now a real marketable coin conserved, stabilized and ready to gain value. Thoughts? Post your orphans and tell us why you grade them or why you don't.

I see this coin as cleaned. But...it does have underlying luster with cartwheel (slightly impaired) and appropriate toning patterns. I see what looks like scrubbing or abrasion to some areas. Lets discuss.

I agree grading is not really possible with just a picture. This post is to get a basic feel for the coin. I will submit it since I enjoy grading and slabbing my type coins. I wanted to see what others felt about this coin. The toning may be retoning but it has a pattern that is natural. I dont think its cleaned..but you never know what NGC will say. I like the look of the coin and it does have underlying luster in hand. Now you see my dilemma its nice but is it nice enough to be a example in my type sets? I got it cheap.

Sandom while I respect your opinion and advice two things.. I am pinching the tiny Half Dime between my 2 fingers not touching the devices with the finger behind. This is called the cradle method. I do this so if it falls I can catch it. Also when you handle your coins w/o gloves you should wash your hands thoroughly and dry your hands with a non paper towel. I handle all my non proof raw coins without gloves. Most graders do as well. Larger coins are easier to control sometimes these little dimes can get away from you. I also believe your grade assignment of VF30 is quite low. There is no damage or cleaning just light circulation wear on an original 169 year old coin. The coin is toned in a target which is appropriate for this coin. The colors of the oxidization are natural and appropriate. The surfaces have no signs of previous or recent cleaning, dipping or whizzing. The striations you may see on the dress are very light circulation marks not scratches. The flatness you refer to as to your low grade assignment does not exist. Look at the head its almost full. PS stop using PCGS Photograde it will rot your mind.Below is a VF30 Half Dime..not even close!

Do Half Dimes count? Here is a nice one in AU 53-55.

I place this 1854 w/ Arrows Half Dime in AU 53 Firm. Purchased $25.00 / $130.00-$160.00 Value Graded. What would you grade it?

An MS quality Anna May wong Quarter could be worth as much as .56 c to $1.14 or more.

Just leave it alone. Its better as an original coin. Its already been cleaned in the past. Its not worth much.

Its not a scratch its a contact mark. It would not have received a straight grade with a scratch. Marks are gradable in fact they are what determines the 60 -70 grade designation. None to few marks with strike quality, luster and eye appeal grade 70 down to 60 with more marks than 61 but still no signs of circulation wear. Marks can come from mint process and handling as well as bags and rolls. Not all marks are non detracting some heavily marked proof coins are graded impaired proof since proofs are not generally graded if heavily dinged or marked.

What happened there is this coin became worth .25 c where as if it did not have that huge rub on it as well as the other contact marks it may have been worth a bit more. Sad

The odds of you actually finding a foreign planchet error Lincoln cent are higher than winning the lottery. We all have to dream though! Keep hunting you'll find something!

This coin was obviously exposed to high pinpoint heat. Then marked with a tool or with a wheel while still hot. Take it for what it is. The coloring of the coin is bluish (blackish blue soot all over it) and wrinkled look of the non heat contact side( Obv) then the obvious I mean really obvious melting of the reverse clad layer. Heat damaged coin. Value/ 25c Mystery Solved

Look at the coin below. Determine if this is or is not an occluded gas bubble pitting mint error and how you came to your conclusion. If you think its not an occluded gas error then suggest your best attribution. This will help us all understand and learn about strange coin errors that are not widely known. Cheers. In my opinion it is Occluded Gas Pitting obv/rev with tarnishing and post mint zinc deterioration in those affected areas. You?