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3 hours ago, KarenHolcomb said:

 

So then mine weigh in as Cupronickel. But eBay was selling silver ones and they advertised the weights as like 28. 28 I think.

4 hours ago, Conder101 said:

Yes.

Standard Catalog of World Coins 37th edition.  The catalog only lists the weight for the silver version and it lists it as 28.28 grams.  Since the crowns are roughly the same size as an Ike dollar (they are a little larger)  I assumed the weight of the copper nickel would be a little more than the weight of a coppernickel Ike which should be around roughly 24 grams.  So based on the weight listed in the standard catalog they should be silver.

 

Interesting.  The silver version of the coins shown though would be a little less than the weight shown for the cat coin in the link that was provided because the cat is .999 fine and the Aircraft of WWI coins are sterling .925 fine.  I find their listed weight for the coppernickel unusually high.  For that number to be correct the coin woulld have to be very thick, about 25% thicker than an Ike dollar.

The tissue test should be a quick and easy way to determine if they are silver of not.  Just put a single layer of facial or toilet tissue over them.  It they are silver it will be obvious.  If you want put a coppernickel Ike, kennedy half, or even a quarter in with them to see if there is a difference in the color seen through the tissue.  

I think @Conder101 Specs are more accurate than what I may have posted. Sorry if I caused any confusion. 

13 hours ago, KarenHolcomb said:

Ok. Greenstang and Conder, where did y'all even get this information because I found nothing except the individual silver coins. I did think there were either 12 or 19. Where I got that at idk because I was on so many sites.

Conder, you say the cupronickel should weigh in about 4g less than silver then I must have Silver, right? Mine weigh in at: 2-28.45, 1-28.48, 1-28.56, and finally 1 at a whopping 28.82. So then they are Silver. Humph! Who'd have guessed that I would get such a deal. I should probably give him some more for them. Poor guy sold everything including his house to bury his mom and his luck has been since. 

Bob, I have no idea what the tissue test is or if it works on Proofs. I am willing to take the test if you tell me what it is, but only on the one that I did the ping test on. Lol!

Thanks a bunch fellows. I always come to you guys when it counts and you never have let me down. You guys are great.

Here are some standard specs for the silver coins from that mint. 

and these are for the Cupronickel coins 

Source: https://www.pobjoy.com/us/products/view/isle-of-man-2015-selkirk-rex-cat-uncirculated-cupro-nickel-coin

hope this helps 

It can also be like the Canada 1974 1 Dollar - Elizabeth II Winnipeg Specimen that came both in Nickle and in 50% silver   https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces18797.html and the Nickle version https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces462.html.

12 hours ago, KarenHolcomb said:

Ok. Greenstang and Conder, where did y'all even get this information because I found nothing except the individual silver coins. I did think there were either 12 or 19. Where I got that at idk because I was on so many sites.

Conder, you say the cupronickel should weigh in about 4g less than silver then I must have Silver, right? Mine weigh in at: 2-28.45, 1-28.48, 1-28.56, and finally 1 at a whopping 28.82. So then they are Silver. Humph! Who'd have guessed that I would get such a deal. I should probably give him some more for them. Poor guy sold everything including his house to bury his mom and his luck has been since. 

Bob, I have no idea what the tissue test is or if it works on Proofs. I am willing to take the test if you tell me what it is, but only on the one that I did the ping test on. Lol!

Thanks a bunch fellows. I always come to you guys when it counts and you never have let me down. You guys are great.

Hope this helps, not sure how reliable this website is. 

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces35673.html this link matches one of the coins in the picture and the following is a list for most releases. https://en.numista.com/catalogue/ile_de_man-20.html

Hope this helps. 

17 hours ago, Collector3745 said:

Here ya are carful I’m a troll 😂 

To me, this looks more like Machine doubling. Remember per NGC article on DD's, machine doubling is flat where an actual DD is raised and rounded. That is how I look for DD's raised and rounded. my two cents. 

18 hours ago, Collector3745 said:

Here ya are!

You can Kind of tell something is there in the nine, but without magnification,(for me anyway) it is hard to say if it is Machine doubling or double die. Could just be post mint damage.  (scratch) but I am not the expert here. 

Gonna throw a can of gasoline and say this, 

@Collector3745 can you place your phone, (am assuming that the pictures are taken with a phone) on a box of some sort so it can be stable. it will allow you to capture better images. just trying to help.  

51 minutes ago, Greenstang said:

Any luck with the acetone bath yet?

Yes, for some reason, I had a hard time posting on chat, it will not allow me to reply. @Greenstang 

It turned out to be nail polish,  pink to boot. 

Ok, let me try the bath @Mohawk @Greenstang  Thanks, I'll keep you posted. 

13 hours ago, Dukemnm said:

Last one for a while. I really appreciate everyone's options. 

Found this Penny that looks to be severely  environmental  damage or is it one of the lamination error? 

Is it worth saving?  Can you imagine the history? Probably  buried somewhere  and some one came along  and dug it up after finding  it with a metal detector. 

who knows. I found  it in a bank roll. 

EEESH! I just noticed, looks like Lincoln got decapitated

One more pic. 

Last one for a while. I really appreciate everyone's options. 

Found this Penny that looks to be severely  environmental  damage or is it one of the lamination error? 

Is it worth saving?  Can you imagine the history? Probably  buried somewhere  and some one came along  and dug it up after finding  it with a metal detector. 

who knows. I found  it in a bank roll. 

I did come across the no F only variety when I was browsing the NGC page after you told me about the 66 and the 82-p very interesting.  And to think that I wasn't  paying  much attention  to those and putting  them back in circulation. Lol

Manuel

Thanks, Tom, @Mohawk

I didn't notice how severe the damage was until I took the pictures. Your input confirms my suspicions and I was looking for confirmation. I was not aware that the 66 and the 82-P had FG missing. I always thought it was the 71.   

Yeah i was wanting  to see pictures.  I just sent some 2019s for grading and now I am curious.  

And here are the close ups.

Let me star off with you don't  see much Kennedy coins question. Usually it's all about pennies and other denominations.  

With that, i came across  this 1974 Kennedy  Half missing FG. 

Or so I thought.  It may have been a faint FG to being with that was worn down. 

What do you all think? 

14 hours ago, Mohawk said:

Same old song and dance.....not a doubled die once again, not here and not in the other thread you posted this same coin in. 

 

 

I do have a 1972 double die, I just wish it was better looking.

UNITED STATES 1972 DDO 1C FS-108

NGC AU 58 BN

1 hour ago, Mohawk said:

Hi Duke,

Well, based on your photos, I think you have a coin which was simply environmentally damaged.  When you say things about the coin's "lamination", I assume you meant to refer to the outer clad layers as a lamination is a specific type of error.  As far as I know, a coin can be struck missing the outer layer of copper-nickel on one or both sides, but I don't believe that a coin can lose its cladding via wear or that the cladding can fall off.  It's a fairly common occurrence to find US nickels and the clad coins with this kind of dark environmental damage.  It's only worth face value.

Sorry the news wasn't better.  Keep hunting though!

~Tom

Thank you Tom @Mohawk

any news is good news when you are like me and love information with the intention of learning.  I have seen Pennies with this type of environmental damage because of the thin copper plating. This would be the first time I come across a quarter like this.

Most quartes I see with environmental damage are mostly black, and this is the first brown one I come across. 

I really appreciate the feedback. 

Manuel 

Well, cotton fibers can be abrasive. latex or nitrile gloves are perfectly fine, I often use nitrile. It depends what I am doing with the coin or the type that I'll switch the type of glove.

If I am penny hunting I'll use the cotton gloves or coin hunting in general. I will use new gloves when handling higher grade and always by the edges and I'll use nitrile when I'm putting the coin in a protective coin holder. 

I will not let my cotton gloves get too dingy like I have seen on some Youtube videos because the dust can scratch coin. I think it's more of a preference. Maybe a more experienced collector can chime in. 

@CRAWTOMATIC

A Couple more pictures.

Hello Everyone. 

I found this in my change and it does look like it lost its lamination or most likely worn out its lamination. It looks like just a copper Quarter, you can tell some of the nickel still there. 

Enjoy!

On 5/24/2019 at 11:16 PM, Dukemnm said:

@CRAWTOMATIC I am using 100 cotton gloves. I got some new ones from China I have been afraid to use because let's face it. It's China. The pad is 100% Medical grade tissue/wipe. I'll get brand names and post soon as I can. 

@CRAWTOMATIC Sorry it took so long to reply to this with brand info. here is a link for the type of gloves I am using. 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/152129235608

@CRAWTOMATIC I am using 100 cotton gloves. I got some new ones from China I have been afraid to use because let's face it. It's China. The pad is 100% Medical grade tissue/wipe. I'll get brand names and post soon as I can.