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WOW thank you both and even more impressed "Lem E" knew what it was. I was scouring the litter web and books trying to find out what it was. Thank you, Thank you both.

ANYONE ABLE TO INDENTIFY THIS COIN? 17**, AND I KNOW IT'S WARN OUT...LOL LIKE I SAID AN EXTREME CHALLENGE. I USED MY ELECTRONIC GLASS AND THIS IS THE CLOSET I COULD GET WITH CLEAN PICTURES. 

Good afternoon ladies and gentleman. I guess the hype is more than the demand. I had no problem placing an order for the 2022 W, but my only concern and I wouldn't be surprise if the mint releases more in the near future.

I'll keep my response short and to the point. I %1000000 agree with " Mr. BlakeEik" because he hit the nail on the head.

11 hours ago, Hoghead515 said:

I bought quite a bit from the mint this year. Got the proof and uncirculated sets. And the SAEs. Got lucky on the V75 SAE and silver medal. I also got all the reverse proof Innovation dollars. And the silver Basketball dollar. I really wanted the silver Mayflower medals but didn't have the money. I found the single one on Ebay for 80.00 a few days after mint sold out. I ended up getting it. Old lady bout skint me over it but I really liked it. I really wanted the 2 coin silver set but didn't have the $     And they are outrageous on Ebay so ill probably have to just pass on that set. I probably got a little to happy this year but I wanted to try and get all the 2020 coins I could. Never know my kids get old they may be able to make a dollar off them due to the coronavirus year. I doubt it tho. But just hopeful wishing. 

NICE!!! Starting out strong and going big!!! I am still working on getting the V75 and the Mayflower medal, but prices are still ridiculous.   

Actually I just read the mint might put out a 100 anniversary CC Morgan and Peace dollar which would be awesome. That would probably be my only interest besides the new SE. God I hope the hobby isn't dying...smh

First and foremost I want to wish everyone a happy 2021 and may your collecting be prosperous! Being a new yr. with the same long term goals as before but with some adjustment along the path. Is anyone excited to see what the mint will role out this yr. besides the new SE? I notice they are still dumping last yrs. coins and but personally I haven't seen anything that has gotten me really excited. Maybe the new 2021 gold 4 pack they are planning to release mid yr. other than that nothing. What are your opinions?

I'm not a Franklin collector but this is a beautiful coin and your description was very elegant and beautifully written....spot on!!  

I am not sure if it's worth trying to work on my medal set, but I received another email/Text regarding the 400th Anniversary MayFlower medal will go on sale 17Nov2020. The mint limit is 14200 and set at $150.00 with 9200 product limit and I am not sure if it will sell out within minutes or I should even waste my time and hope for the best and try to purchase one.  also I noticed people pricing this coin like it's the next holly grail. What is the community point of view. 

Again Respectfully yours..Be safe, curious, question everything and happy Thanksgiving!!

Well gentleman and ladies (if any)..The prices seem to have come down and the medium is around $450.00 on eBay. I've been scrolling through other sites and some cats are still asking stupid $$. I mean like previously stated and great point, the Privy doesn't seem deep enough and could erode ( sorry for a lack of better term) over time OR could easily be duplicated (brilliant, pure BRILLANT)..LOL 

I understand 75k in silver where minted but the 2019s reverse is still commanding premium price and much rarer. We still don't know if the privy will be the new norm with the new series due mid next yr. 

Anyways as always please be safe, respectful, and May the Force be with you 

I was on eBay because I received a notification for the up coming sale from the USMINT.gov and the lowest I've found was $999.95 and I believe it was still being bid on. I've seen some already listed between $1500.00 and $2500.00..LMAO. I guess I won't be partaking in any eBay purchases. I am relying on old luck and hopefully the mints serves don't crash...good luck everyone

05NOV20 Is the scheduled release of the 75th anniversary ASE. Good luck to those who are in pursuit and good luck to those lucky 75k. I am trying to go for the Gold coin and the silver will be my back up. Be safe, keep your hands and face clean and enjoy the rest of summer.  

2020 WW2 Silver Eagle is supposed to come out towards the end of the yr. with a mint of 75k. Is anyone else excited and nervous at the same time b/c of the 2019s enhance proof debacle? I'm going to be one of those guys and probable eBay bid on multiple pre orders. I know is sounds crazy but I can't let this coin go b/c it will be key in the set.. Anyway good luck and coin hunting..Ohhh be safe, healthy and wash your dam hands and face!!!!

1 hour ago, numisport said:

I like the coin for 66 bucks but will never participate in an event like this again. The only fair way to get these into collector hands is to offer pre production sales to determine demand (one per family of course), then strike to fill orders. This sale was nothing more than a ploy to expand their base but can only hurt real collectors. Just imagine you purchasing one for let's say 400 bucks on Ebay only to find out a couple years later they are available for 100. That's what happened to my other low mintage silver eagle sets so beware the speculation.

Yes that is a possibility and the frustration I hope was worth it. If it even touches the realm of the 1995 W IMO it was worth the headache..lol

WOW, AND MANY WOWS afterwards. I am sure like many collectors getting one of these coins was a nightmare. Some of us "Lucked Out", I mean some how, some way we got through. I was fortunate enough to get my order through and I will post pictures of it once it arrives. I might have it graded by NGC, but I am in no rush because the coin isn't going anywhere. To those who lucked out and to those who missed out there might be a chance of some returns or cancelled orders (not likely with the mintage at 30k)

I have mixed emotions on this new addition to the series. The aesthetics are throwing me off just enough to maybe detour me from placing an order 16Aug19 at noon. I really want to like this piece but the Eagle looks sloppy and Lady Liberty looks weird (maybe forehead or eyes) IDK. The mint is only minting 50k so that might be my deciding factor to p/u one up (maybe worth something down the road, still $100.00 though..OUCH!). What does the community think?

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9 hours ago, Coinbuf said:

The date looks correct but I would need to see more of the coin in hand to id the die pair.  Given the condition I'd send it to ANACS for verification purposes as its less expensive, even if its the desirable die pair #2 the environmental damage limits the value.

Actually I never thought about that. I only go through NGC when it comes to TPG. I checked out ANACS and they seem legit and extremely fair in price. Again thanks for the input and help, much respect!!! 

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2 hours ago, Greenstang said:

There would be no grinding marks on a weak D. It was minted (overpolished?) with a very shallow D thus the variety known as a "Weak D"

Ahhhh good look! Now I understand what you’re saying. I might send it out for verification. Thanks

4 hours ago, Greenstang said:

 With coin so worn and corroded it is hard to see any of the markers for a no "D". I think I see what might be a sign of a weak "D" but again I can't be positive.

I focused on that area as well and I couldn't find any "grinding marks" then again maybe I missed something and you spotted something. Unfortunately the heavy corrosion is terrible and I am not sure If NGC or any TPG will take a chance and certify it. The electron scope was around 70% magnification any more and the photos get blurry. Thanks for the input.  

Hey peeps I have the day off, no kid, no old lady and screw the house work (until tomorrow..lol). Any ways I was sifting through some old coins I picked up many, many moons ago in VA at a old yard/barn sale and I notice this a 1922/no D? I been soaking the coin in olive oil hoping for the heavy tarnish material falls off. I notice heavy damage/corrosion to the coin. So I took some photos of it under a electric microscope. What does the community think?

Welcome to the thread..It does seem to be the vibe in the numismatic community about the ASE. Yet people are grabbing them up on EBay..at least the unique finishes. Like stated in the above that’s my goal forward until they come out with some new. I have a boat load of un-slabbed SE almost the whole set except for the 15k (you’re high as a kite price unless I hit the big one, in that case never..lol), and minus a couple I’m in no hurry to get. 

I’ve been looking to get into to the Panda series. Those are some sharp pieces 

1 hour ago, Revenant said:

This kind pf nonsense (this set) is a big part of why I've tabled my Silver Eagle set and a lot of my NCLT collecting for now and have little interest in getting back into it.

If I had the budget I'd probably try to fill out my Pandas, Koalas, Kooks and Lunar sets, but even then I thinj I'd have trouble getting excited for the SAEs again.

1 hour ago, Mohawk said:

I've thought that they should retire the ASE design for years.  It now has the same syndrome as most other regular issue US coins have......a design that has been around for decades and has grown stale.  In my mind, they should have done the 2006 20th Anniversary Set as a sendoff to the old design and replaced with something entirely new.  As it stands now, the same ASE design has been around for 33 years and the obverse of that design was a retread right out of the gate.  That's the problem with the entire Eagle Program aside from the Platinum Eagle....they're all retreads.  While the Platinum Eagle designs have had some flat tires, they've also had some absolute wins.  Look at the proof reverses for 2011 and 2013, to cite two great examples.  They prove to me that nice designs can be created today, which would add to the body of attractive numismatic artwork while keeping the programs fresh.  But I'm of the opinion that all of the current US coin designs should be scrapped....they've all been around for way too long, and they've grown stale, tired and boring.  If the best thing the US Mint can do is offer the same, tired stuff with funny finishes and different mint marks, then they deserve to lose collectors to other areas of collecting.  I think if the US Mint wants to drawn in more collectors, which they clearly do, they need to freshen things up.  Get some new designs out there for the cent, nickel, dime, quarter, half dollar, the ASE, the AGE and the Palladium Eagle.  Many collectors don't want the same coin with different mint marks, or the same coin with funny finishes.  They want something that is truly different.  That is truly where the US Mint is lacking these days. 

Hhhmmmm...If you’re referring to the cookie cutter, same thing different toilet design? Sure no rebuttal in this corner. Where our taste and preferences may differ are, I’m more of a traditionalist. I appreciate how different artists incorporate a design to a particular series to pay tribute or pure satisfaction of the art itself/history in itself.  America is a young nation in the old world. True Story: I got into numismatics when I was a kid because I appreciated the art. As I grew older I gain more interest in history and through my hobby of coin collecting. I learned so much more because of the history of the coin. What where the economic conditions, ore availability, who was the SEC. of Treasury, political climate etc. off 1 little coin. We all collect for our own reason because we appreciate the hobby..

Again great conversation and perspective! 

Note: If any grammatical or incoherent sentences. I blame it on my IPad...

Absolutely agree with you guys!! Well stated and points taken. It’s true the US Mint is milking the S.E worse than Disney milking Marvel (Bless Mr. Lee). Which is why I only collect semi-date or Unique finish. At one point I was focusing on the PF series, but like mentioned above it is getting out of hand. 

It’s ironic you mentioned how boring the series has become...lol..I see nothing wrong with retiring the series maybe the next anniversary date and bring something new, fresh, just as beautiful and respected?

greatly appreciate the conversations 

39 minutes ago, Mohawk said:

Honest truth?  Okay, I'll give you my thoughts but they may not be what you want to hear.......

I think that they'll be like most other US Mint products that have been put out since 1999.  They'll be hotter than the sun for a short while but once the moment has passed, they'll die.  By this time next year, I think the premium will be gone because the novelty will be gone.

But......I could be completely wrong.  The set does contain another ASE with a funny finish, and they sometimes defy logic.  But, then again, it is yet another ASE with a funny finish......that could hurt it as well as help it.  I think a lot of longtime collectors are getting tired of this kind of thing.

Interesting point of view my friend. I think it will stick around due to the low mintage/relative and the "funny finish". Some S.E. collectors myself included collect only the unique finishes or low mintage dates/semi-key dates. Will it command stupid $$ in 20-30 yrs?, only time will tell. I was doing some research or scouting threads on various sites and there seems to be a mixed emotion. Some people/collectors believe it will be a key date others believe it will die down like you have stated..

Yes Sir. that was my thought process. I already see cats marking the out of the set before the release date on EBay Roughly between $200-$1000...