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Along with my new copy stand - I got this today for the start of my 1950 Proof set - Its kind of cool with a WAVE of tone flowing up from the bottom of the reverse - It hazes blue in the right light

I didnt realize it till I picture that gold coin the talon actually enters through the date - I kind of DO not like that 'artistic' touch.

New Addition

Nice coin -

NP's

ALL ON Ebay

Picked this up at a local B&M for $5 - I like it !

New for My Reg Set - Say Hello to BALDIES

New Additions - Temporarary

Wow! I like that one!

Here is the Museum Web site in Arlington,MA

Museum

Actually My Wife Works at one ...

Pisses me off Cause Dallins Museum is in Arlington MA but it mostly

sports his sculptures. Guy was great ..

Someone needs to go to the library

Heath did not illustrate the Dallin medal, However, this medal

is illustrated in the book by Rell G. Francis "Cyrus E. Dallin;

Let Justice Be Done" as Figure 246, page 241

Nope thats a "TURNER"

Intersting reading but NO Pictures

The E-Sylum: Volume 5, Number 17, April 21, 2002, Article 4

1921 PLYMOUTH TERCENTENARY MEDALS

Coincidentally, John Merz, in reference to Johnson?s

upcoming book on coin and medal artists, writes: "I have a

1921 Pilgrim half dollar with designer?s initial ?D? for Cyrus

Dallin. I also have an ?Official Souvenir Medal? dated 1921

from the Plymouth (Mass.) Tercentenary Committee,

commemorating the three hundredth anniversary of the landing

of the Pilgrims. The medal has no designer?s initial (that I can

see). Could it have also been the work of Dallin?"

's reply: "To answer your specific inquiry: Cyrus Edwin

Dallin (1861-1944) DID do a 1921 Plymouth Tercentenary

Medal. But so did three other known artists (and perhaps a

couple unknown artists). And this is the reason for specialized

collections and numismatists who collect, organize, describe

and published specialized numismatic topics. Bless their

hearts!

Malcolm Storer -- the medical doctor whose father was

Horatio Storer who gathered and published the monumental

work on medical medals -- gathered, organized, described

and published the work on Massachusetts numismatic items.

His "Numismatics of Massachusetts" was published by the

Massachusetts Historical Society, 1923. [i suspect his

collection was started by his father, he inherited it, added to

it and published HIS book.]

Malcolm lists these medals for the 1920 Pilgrim Tercentennial:

Storer 1558 by G.L. Turner (struck by Reed & Barton).

Storer 1559 by the Dutch medalist Jan Pesynshof.

Storer 1560 by Cyrus E. Dallin (signed Dallin).

Storer 1561 by Julio Kilenyi (unsigned but struck and signed

by Whitehead & Hoag).

Storer 1562 and 1563. Unsigned (and probably created by

some unknown factory artists, perhaps at Blackinton or

Robbins, nearby New England medalmakers).

(Unfortunately Storer did not illustrate any of these medals.)

Fifty years later, a Massachusetts numismatist, Robert Heath,

began collecting, organizing, describing, and published his

"Commemorative Medals of New England Cities & Towns,"

beginning in 1977. His seventh Massachusetts edition (1995)

lists five of these medals (omitting the Dutch medal); and adds

one more. (His numbers: MA239-5 thru MA239-10).

Heath did not illustrate the Dallin medal, However, this medal

is illustrated in the book by Rell G. Francis "Cyrus E. Dallin;

Let Justice Be Done" as Figure 246, page 241.

I cannot identify which medal is yours from the description you

gave. Probably not Dallin since he did sign his medal. Perhaps

a search of Heath would identify your medal quickly.

Related problem: Dallin did sign his models with his last name

(he was a sculptor, not an engraver). An earlier artist on an

1883 Brooklyn Bridge Medal signed C.E.D. (same initials as

Cyrus). He was an engraver, not a sculptor. All the work of

this artist (we still do not know his identity) were struck by

J.A. Diehl of Philadelphia. [i suspect, but cannot prove,

that C.E.D. was related to Diehl.] Research continues."

I am not sure if you are going to find one ...

"

Boston sculptor Cyrus E. Dallin was selected by the Tercentenary Commission to prepare models showing a portrait of Plymouth Colony Governor William Bradford and the Pilgrim's ship, the Mayflower, on which they made their historic journey in 1620. Dallin ran afoul of the Commission of Fine Arts' sculptor member, James Earle Fraser of Buffalo nickel fame, who found fault with his execution of the inscriptions: "Altogether the design for the Pilgrim fifty cent coin is good. The part that seems to me to need most attention if there is time is the lettering." Of course, there wasn't time to correct this, and the Fine Arts Commission's decision to not render a verdict on Dallin's models prompted the Treasury Department to simply disregard their comments and proceed with the preparation of dies. In October of 1920 a total of 200,112 Pilgrim halves were struck at the Philadelphia Mint, the odd 112 pieces being reserved for assay and later destroyed. The coins were first offered for sale at $1 apiece in November. Distribution was handled by the Shawmut National Bank of Boston and the coins were available at every bank in Boston and Plymouth. Although there was no official packaging, two types of boxes were privately produced. One was gold with a green coin sleeve inside, and was imprinted with PEOPLE'S SAVINGS BANK, WORCHESTER, MASS. The other, a white box with a circular coin slot, was imprinted with SOCIETY OF COLONIAL WARS, IN THE STATE OF RHODE ISLAND AND PROVIDENCE PLANTATIONS. Both of these are quite valuable today.

The obverse of the Pilgrim Tercentenary half dollar portrays a left-facing, half-length figure of William Bradford, the second governor of the Plymouth Colony. He assumed this role in 1621 and was re-elected thirty times! The image is fanciful, as no actual portrait of him exists. He holds in his left arm what is most likely the Bible, but what has also been identified as his own book History of Plimmoth Plantation. Behind his portrait is the motto IN GOD WE TRUST, while the legends UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and PILGRIM HALF DOLLAR are arranged peripherally, separated by stars. Dallin's incuse initial D appears below Bradford's elbow. The reverse is dominated by a three-quarters view of the Mayflower sailing on rough seas. Its rigging is erroneous, the forward jib sail being of a type not utilized as early as 1620. The inscription PILGRIM TERCENTENARY CELEBRATION is arranged peripherally. Separated from it by stars are the dual dates 1620 - 1920

"

Tells of some of the differences ..

Still looking for you

I have now detombed this coin and the colours errupted from the coin ...

Who would have thunk I would buy a TONED coin .... quiet Winston

First picture in tomb - Second picture extracted from ...

Very nice additions there Winston, and yes Mike I still like that Morgan!! (thumbs u

Thanks - These are my Picturs and shows what little color this coin does have .. Over all better than initially pictured I think

I don't know much about Morgans but I'm assuming that 1896O has some significance or you would have purchased a blast white MS63 or 64 coin

Yeah its called a few big reasons

AU55=$219

AU58=$432

MS60=$1260

MS61=$1970

MS62=$3000

MS63=$8060

MS64=$45,630

I would like to upgrade to an 58 if the right candidate comes along .. I think I will spend the MS monies elsewhere ...

Gotta Lay off the Cocktails there Winnie .. Nice Pick ups though

Here is my NEW Ugly Morgan -

Mike, fun Frankie. (thumbs u So, is the star for moderate cameo contrast on both sides or significant cameo contrast on one side?

Both sides are equally "CLOSE" to cameo

Coin Description:

USA-50C

1960

Grade:

PF 68*

Graded By:

NGC

I Like this one ... My Birth year too

I believe that is a Half Eagle

I love that Maine - NOICE !

I guess I should respond to my open question about the grade of the Columbian and it grades MS64 by PCGS. This is a classic case of a TPG blowing a grade completely and I think at least part of the reason is that it was graded exactly at the time that PCGS went from their green insert to the first generation blue insert. The coins graded at that time appear to have been graded at a very tight standard relative to grading since then or even before that time.

Having owned quite a few of these in various grades I have determined they use the REAR sail ribs assist in grading these. I would have said 65 in a NGC holder and 64 in a PCGS.

Most MINT State coins graded 60-63 have very light to NO ribs in the rear sail area .. this coin portrays some nice ribbing ... Nice coin

The pictured coin below ( Which has a new owner ) is a 63 and you can compare the Rear Sail Ribs

New Addition to my GOLD/PLAT commem set