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This letter will help collectors better understand how partial collar error coins were created. I was not convinced that planchets might over-expand during improper annealing, but the Coiner (Bosbyshell) says that is the most likely cause. Since Snowden had been Coiner several years earlier it's unlikely Bosbyshell was stating anything new. April 21, 1884 Hon. A. Loudoun Snowden, Superintendent Sir: In response to the letter of the Rev. J.A. Boyce of Stony Fork, Tioga County, Pa, addressed to you, enclosing a half dollar of 1877 struck in the Mint at San Francisco, handed to me for examination and report, I have the honor to state that in my opinion the piece is a genuine coin. It is one-1/10the grains light of standard weight, and resists the acid test. There are two reasons to account for the appearance of the periphery – the most probable one is that the planchet became enlarged by overheating in the annealing, and was forced into the collar by the upper die – the lower dies striking it a moment later than usual. The other reason to account for the trouble is the lower die may possibly have stuck in the collar after rising to enable a piece to become disengaged, and the upper die descending before the lower die loosened, forced only a portion of the planchet into the collar. [RG104 Entry 1 Box 131 via NNP]

I thought the subject referred to the "golden age" or "Renaissance of American Coinage" period...not later ccoins or commemoratives. Maybe I misunderstood.

Personal comment: To those who are not aware of it, "leeg's" work on classic commemoratives is far and away superior to ALL prior works. Swiatik and the others look like amateurs compared to what leeg has uncovered and explained.

RE: "If gold is going on a sustained rise, then I wouldn't call it a "poor time" to buy gold, right ?" I disagree. Buying at the present level exposes buyers to extreme volatility of a commodity which has very limited commercial value support. The "spot gold" market is not an open or free one - commercial users obtain gold and most other "precious metals" through direct contracting. Coin collectors have developed a sort of cult attitude toward gold which, like all cults and dogmas, ignores facts. PS: "Not familiar with French "roosters" -- what's their story ?" That's what is used for McNuggets in Paris. No one knows what's in the "dipping sauce" mixture.

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Some members might have seen the recent announcements concerning a set of Daniel Boon 1837 Commemorative P-D-S proofs. Published information can be viewed here: https://coinweek.com/auctions-news/classic-commemorative-coins-possibly-unique-matte-proof-1937-boone-half-dollar/ The coins are definitely interesting and possibly unique, but unfortunately parts of the published description are wrong or misleading. First – the coins were struck on one of the Philadelphia Mint’s hydraulic medal presses. It appears the same obverse die was paired with a fresh reverse for Philadelphia, Denver and San Francisco. Second – the dies were normal production dies but unused. Third – the coins were struck once, not twice. There was no need to double strike since the medal press could easily bring up all the die detail with one “squeeze.” Fourth – after striking, the coins were sandblasted to create the micro-sparkling surface typical of mineral abrasive. Fifth – following sandblasting, the pieces were antiqued in a manner similar to silver medals. This produced the shading and enhanced sense of depth evident in the coins. Sixth – the coins were NOT some kind of secret off-the-books production, nor were they sold to influential collectors. The sandblast & antiqued coins were normal approval pieces made by John Sinnock for review by the Mint Director and Secretary of the Treasury. They were intended to show the commemorative design at its artistic best, and in a medallic presentation consistent with the desire of professional artists. These were normal test/trial pieces which do not appear on production records because they were not made for distribution or sale. (They would probably be mentioned in Engraving Department records, but those are almost all missing.) Seventh – similar antiquated sandblast proof pieces were made of all commemoratives during Sinnock’s tenure, and analogous pieces were struck during the terms of Charles Barber (except Columbian and Isabella) and George Morgan (1921 and 1922 Peace dollar proofs and antiqued pieces). These proofs and many others came from Sinnock’s estate after his death and have been floating from one collection to another since. The exaggerations, misleading, false and outdated information promoted by some is very discouraging. When will this hobby, or what little remains of it, decide that basic truth and honesty are much more exciting than tall tales.

More of a "dead adjustment...."

RE: "I don’t believe this is a cleaned coin." You are correct. It is a '52 Studebaker convertible.

Feeding Trolls only makes them hungry. Their appetite for attention is boundless. Anyone what to help plant garlic at the executive mansion?

If authentication experts from two major companies disagree, then the owner is obligated to disclose that to any potential buyer and to sell the item as-is, where-is.

A poor time to buy any gold coin except ones that are truly scarce and which will retain their collector value. The others, including marginal ones such as 1922-S, are too close to bullion pieces to give the collector any chance of recovering their cost. An exception could be made for a clearly visible new variety, error, or bungled edge.

Same team of artists. But Oregon Trail is not a circulation coin.

Damage from stain and likely automatic rolling equipment. PS: You'll get better detail if you reduce or turn off the phony (pun intended) sharpening on you phone -- all it does is increase contrast and washout details.

OJ probably couldn't enjoy the collection much from his cell.

Corroded. Worthless.

No particular collector value beyond the silver....looks like mechanical doubling.

No...they move the mountain to the China-Nepal border. :)

Any jeweler can quickly remove the coin from the mounting - it's intended not to damage the coin. Lift the small tabs on the reverse and the coin will fall out. The coin has been scrubbed so don't expect more than bullion value.

Yes --- at least 20 seconds, maybe less. Ooops --- forgot already.

Straight from the BBC --- https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-53590846

Yes, the circled thing is Abe Lincoln's nose. That seems to be the only correct part of the OP's posts.

The poster evidently does not want, and never did want, honest opinions. Even if the damaged coin is sent to a TPG, the poster will not accept any result except the one he initially expressed.

That photo was taken quite a while ago. I've lost about 90 lbs since then, and I have no intention of looking for them, either.

RE: "....collect some varieties in my world Series" Well, you might find more interest in that in the baseball card or autograph sections This year's Series is likely to be a dud -- so far most of the games have seemed more like exhibitions or intrasquad matches.

I don't really "collect" coins except temporarily for research or to verify something. I cannot afford to hold on to $$$$$ in non-performing assets, regardless of how much pleasure that would bring.