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It's still top pop.
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Thanks for all the great comments. This has been epic!
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13 hours ago, Mr.Mcknowitall said:
Reading Felipe Fernandez-Armesto on the subject is always good.
Wow...Fernández-Armesto gained media attention in 2007 for his alleged brutalising by five policemen in Atlanta, Georgia, as a result of jaywalkin
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On 8/27/2017 at 3:36 PM, Nutmeg Coin said:
Very good article and point. Seems there's a shroud of mystery where him and crew landing in 1492. Guanahani (Named by the Taíno, the natives that lived there at the time) Bahama is what Wiki info says the landing occurred..but which island in the Bahamas?? There are more then 700 islands in the Bahamas. GEEZ!!
The conquistadors SOB were far worse. A bit OT but relevant in a abstract form.
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On 8/23/2017 at 1:35 PM, Conder101 said:
Based on what evidence? Considering no proven sketch or painting of the man is known why would there be a statue? Seems unlikely. When was the statue made? Location? Ok I found the location but I haven't been able to find out when it was erected.
Well, I don't know if there is a proven painting or sketch of Columbus. The statue is located in Funchal Madeira, an island off the coast of Portugal. The Christopher Columbus Quincentenary $5 gold piece has much the same (Side Profile) features as does the statue. I can't find the the date when it was erected too, online. Looks like a nice Island !
nline.
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On 8/8/2017 at 10:57 AM, Conder101 said:
The SOL 50 cent is an interesting design. Only US coin where the main figures on BOTH sides have their backs to the viewer.
Good observation .
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On 8/8/2017 at 11:45 AM, Nutmeg Coin said:
This is probably a true likenesses of Columbus . Talk about statues! Halten Sie auf, meinen Freund zu posten!
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Only 135,702 1992 D Columbus half dollars were minted. PCGS has Graded 201 MS70's and NGC 178. ICG, who knows. This fine coin is worthy in any collection! Heck, I'm not trying to sell it, I simply like it! BTW, The 1991 S MT Rushmore sparkles, looks 3D!
Also, The 1986 Statue of Liberty half dollar is another well designed coin. I have a NGC MS70 "GOD Bless America" in the old holder.The Twin Towers are visible on the upper right. Makes me reflect. The label transcends the coin.
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The 1992 Columbus half dollar is my favorite modern commemorative coin design. Stands up well alongside older coins imo. What do you think?
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Missed this one for I didn't look any further after finding the first m67+. I assumed there would be only one in this auction. Who would have thought there be would two!? This example is a much better comparison imo. The toning is nice though not stellar and it looks to be problem free.
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Agreed. Those are some nasty hits on the field, olive leaf and torch. They would bother me in any grade. Makes the olive branch look like it has a oblong head with a idol like face!
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As I recall the 60s when I started collecting, Coin collecting used to be more fun, back when whizzed coins were common, counterfeits were everywhere, and the same coin was BU when purchased and EF when sold. Yeah, I can see the response to this comment now: People should learn to recognize whizzed coins, detect counterfeits, and how to grade. What a great hobby...I have to study, study, study rather than simply relax and enjoy.
These are the golden days of collecting. Encapsulated coins are (virtually) never whizzed nor counterfeit. With the ever-increasing sophistication of counterfeits, that last fact is very reassuring. Plus the encapsulation means that when my kids were much younger, I could let them look at my coins with no fear of harm coming to the coins. Grading remains an issue, but much less so with the big 2 (or 3) grading companies.
Plus, no one tells me that I have to chase "grade rarities" (such as the coin featured in this thread way back at the start) and pay a hefty price to acquire them. I can do so if I want or I can choose to pass. Moreover, if others want to collect these sorts of coins because they enjoy doing so, more power to them. Let them have a good time because their good times have no effect on me.
Mark
You said it in the true spirit of collecting for the joy of it. No negativity here!
Part of the fun being a serious collector at least for me, is the learning process by educating myself. In the end, I make the decisions, not a dealer or a slab!!
Here is a Roosie that tied for the second finest known example of a 1964 D.
Strategically anticipating some expert analytical comparisons to "Just Having Fun"
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Like I said Lou!
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If you can get a green bean on it, then the ceiling is significantly higher.
Best, HT
Be very hard for that to happen as, if one knows CAC or bothers to look at their website...."Ten Cents (Dimes) 1796-1945 " is what they do.
No dimes after 1945 (ie...all Roosevelts)......
Now, one could go and try to QA it, but not sure what that would add....
I think HT's post was sarcasm.
The first time I saw a QA "Beaner", it looked somewhat impressive and I thought it
might be affiliated with CAC because a nice Eisenhower I was looking at had both stickers on it! I asked around and no one could tell me what the QA sticker was all about so I found this awhile back..... http://qacoins.com/. Well organized site with a complete listing of the coins they've evaluated. Combine a CAC and QA on a star holder and one would truly have a decorated slab that could be called a "Generals Holder"! After going back to the original listing of the illustrious "Rosie" that was the center piece of this thread, this gem appeared on the screen....
I don't think there will be any disputing this one!
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You are a NGCIA guy I presume Mr.Macknowitall, no? This world has quite an abundance of "Knowitalls" with Rush Limbo being at the forefront...uh was at the
forefront, heh.
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I'm very pleased and excited about all the comments on this informative and intense thread.
Special thanks to you Wondercoin! The wealth of detailed, eloquently written comments by
some of whom are at the top of this field is phenomenal! I'm humbled by this "Meeting of the Minds".
I look forward to seeing the auction results on Heritage of this illustrious coin!
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One can verify a cert # for an NGC slab simply by entering the # in the cert
verification block on the NGC home webpage site without being a member. A
brief description of the coin denomination and the grade appears. However, no
picture appears. I assume a picture often appears if one is a Collector's society
member. It has been so long since I was a member I can't recall if a picture
appeared. Secondly, one can't access the census unless one is a member.
However, I don't possess any population in high value numbers so I am not too
concerned with skewed numbers by resubmisssions although I suppose MS62
may be skewed too.
NGC started scanning coins that were submitted several years ago and once the
verification number is typed in, the coin and slab will show up. The scans are on
the dark side and it's difficult to gauge the eye appeal from the images. Coins
submitted prior to their scanning feature will not show an image but the same
info will show up.
The images are copyrighted!
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"A distraction is a distraction, no?
What is and is not a distraction is subjective. Make the determination for yourself. The grade on a slab is nothing more than a from of price guide. If you treat it as such, as a guide and not the gospel, you buy the coins you like for the prices you are willing to pay.
The grade on a slab will never be anything more than a form of price guide. You cannot improve upon subjectivity.
Absolutely! The same principle applies to raw coins though unless money is of
no concern, like that's not a problem for most folks! Some research
should be done and if you don't know how to grade well, have someone who can, grade it.
On a light note, I spotted some mighty large coin like objects orbiting this planet
while grading a Apollo 11 medal.....
Enjoy!
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How can a strike look au53?
Like this? I've heard the coins in the OGH aka "Rattlers" were graded more stringently.
More often than not, I find that to be the case.
Exhibit #1:
Exhibit #2:
So you are assigning a grade to the singular element of strike, which happens to coincide with the 70 scale used to do determine overall grade based mostly on wear, of which strike is a singular of many elements of? Is that correct?
I am just pointing out that while that may work for you own selection of coin, and there would be nothing wrong with that as I too value strike heavily in liking a coin, it has very little real world impact on grade, and as in the case of with the owner of the most expensive coin ever sold "the strike doesn't matter one bit".
Not to mention the fact that neither of those two AU coins, nor the MS64 coin's assigned grade had anything to do with strike.... that first one is a great looking, weakly struck MS coin, which is why it is limited at 64. Those other two were coins that had been slightly circulated... if you can't see that, I would practice up on your grading skills.
Being that I started learning how to grade last summer, I'm told I'm not half bad
at grading by seasoned dealers. In fact, I'm asked about my opinion on new material they acquire. Heck, your never too old to learn more!
After much ruminating on the remarks on this thread, I have found the Holy Grail of
Roosevelt's "Just For Fun's" identical twin for a fraction of the price tag. Enjoy!
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How can a strike look au53?
Like this? I've heard the coins in the OGH aka "Rattlers" were graded more stringently.
More often than not, I find that to be the case.
Exhibit #1:
Exhibit #2:
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Now, I am convinced that I am missing something. What am I missing? Am I really this oblivious to the series? The hits on the reverse would preclude a anything above a 65 for me.Offered here is THE nicest 1964-D Roosevelt Dime ever graded at PCGS in their near 30 year existence as the TOP grading service!! A pop 1/0 coin...!
The state of preservation of this dime (especially the obverse) is utterly amazing. Bear in mind, this coin was graded PCGS-MS68FB a long time ago and any suggestion of "recent gradeflation" simply does not apply to this coin that has been in this holder for a long, long time!! ...
I am on PCGS' prestigious "Board of Experts" having been hand picked as PCGS' top (outside) modern coin expert at the time.
After looking at some MS68 on HA, this coin appears to have similar strike details. The
hits are probably offset by the toning from the graders stand point. I've seen coins that
appeared two grades lower strike wise than what the holder listed and was told by
fellow collectors the grade was assigned primary for the eye appea.l RWB recently
called grading a "Pseudo Science". I like to think there is happy median in which
collectors can agree on the quality of the coin!
Are you still under the impression that strike has anything to do with wear? [/quote
I'm not under the impression strike determines the grade these days, in the beginning yes! Overall eye appeal is paramount to a "Proper" grade imho.
This Morgan is a good example of how toning and eye appeal override strike
which looks AU53 to me.
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Now, I am convinced that I am missing something. What am I missing? Am I really this oblivious to the series? The hits on the reverse would preclude a anything above a 65 for me.Offered here is THE nicest 1964-D Roosevelt Dime ever graded at PCGS in their near 30 year existence as the TOP grading service!! A pop 1/0 coin...!
The state of preservation of this dime (especially the obverse) is utterly amazing. Bear in mind, this coin was graded PCGS-MS68FB a long time ago and any suggestion of "recent gradeflation" simply does not apply to this coin that has been in this holder for a long, long time!! ...
I am on PCGS' prestigious "Board of Experts" having been hand picked as PCGS' top (outside) modern coin expert at the time.
After looking at some MS68 on HA, this coin appears to have similar strike details. The
hits are probably offset by the toning from the graders stand point. I've seen coins that
appeared two grades lower strike wise than what the holder listed and was told by
fellow collectors the grade was assigned primary for the eye appea.l RWB recently
called grading a "Pseudo Science". I like to think there is happy median in which
collectors can agree on the quality of the coin!
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I wonder why he doesn't ship to minnesota
Because of the ridiculous law that was recently passed in the Land of 10,000 Lakes.
Imagine what would happen if all the states enacted the same law....sales of gold
and silver coins would come to a practical standstill benefiting no one. Absurd!!!
http://www.usrarecoininvestments.com/coin_articles/dealers_to_reject_minnesota_clients.htm
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My eyes popped when I spotted this outrageous coin. When I saw the slab,
my jaws dropped in disbelief. Could this by the only slab in the world to have
a non sequitur written on it?
That adds a grand to the value of the dime!
"Just Having Fun" MS68 PCGS Slab!
in US, World, and Ancient Coins
Posted · Edited by EleMint Man
add facts
One graded MS68 FB. by PCGS and one MS68 FT by NGC. No info as to ICG or ANACS. Old thread come back to life!
Check out Buffaloheads post. A truly remarkable story destined for the history books!
Still only one graded by PCGS. Highly doubtful there will ever be another graded @ MS68.