Matt_dac

Buzz famously said "Neil and I landed on the Moon at precisely the same instant". 

Regarding Michael Collins, one of the quotes from his book (excellent btw) describing his experience was "although I have no intention of spending the rest of my life looking backward, I do have this secret, this precious thing, that I will always carry with me".  

2 minutes ago, USAuPzlBxBob said:

No.  I'm fine.

Didn't know there's a $10 mark up… but $10 is nothing.

You want to always "like" everything you see when you look at the slab.

Early Release will remind me of the struggle, hope, desperation, and satisfaction… in acquiring the coin.

Well very good then.  We'll have to compare notes once we get them back from NGC to see if we got PF69 or PF70 coins. 

1 minute ago, USAuPzlBxBob said:

So what?

Do you ever buy name brand potato chips? Like Lays?  That's a mark up, to make you feel better. (I buy them all the time.)

Got my coin.  $423.70, all in, from the US Mint.

Glitchy site, got an oops message that something went wrong, and then like a fool I forgot to have my Credit Card on me when I got back on, to complete the transaction. (had to run upstairs to get it, to then enter a few details, like security code)

But done, and I can relax, now.

You seem offended, I'm just pointing out my observation.  Have you found First or Early command higher premiums in the market for moderns?

And a $148 markup on the 5 ounce silver based on today's spot prices. 

21 minutes ago, USAuPzlBxBob said:

$418.75 - $339.90 = $78.85 above today's melt. (not including the value of the Ag and Cu)

Then, there will be S&H, too.  Maybe even sales tax.  Insurance? (don't know)

It's gotta come in around $450 just to get to your front door.

The next big question, for me, will be First Releases or Early Releases?

Early Releases has a sort of onomatopoeia suggestion to it, which I like.

34 minutes and counting, and everything is A O K (In Like Flint)

WOWie… Z.O.W.I.E. !

 

I have never associated "First" or "Early" release as having any value of any kind.  You have to pay an additional $10 in the grading to get these labels as well.  I'm not aware of this having any real market value but I seldom buy modern and could be mistaken. 

It’s about an $80 markup over melt.

My advice is don’t buy this as an investment, but a novelty item.

$418.75 for the $5 Gold version.

18 hours ago, investinrehabs said:

VKurtB,

Interesting analogy on the clad half dollar. I'm fairly new to the ins and outs of collecting, but why in the world does the mint put out these half dollars and not make them in silver? They're doing a reverse proof Kennedy half, for the half dollar "set" and neither coin is silver. I would think they would sell a ton of them if they were silver! IMO...$54 for 2 halves is a very high price too. Do you think the set is worth buying? They're minting 750,000 of them, so that seems to me that that's a lot of sets. I just don't know if I should bother spending my money on buying the sets. What's your thoughts?

I think there is more novelty value for commems like this rather than real numismatic value.  If I buy it would be for novelty value (I collect space things in addition to coins) with the added bonus of bullion value (gold or silver only).  I would be very surprised if these commens were worth much more in 20 years than the selling price, and much less if the bullion prices were down at the time you try to sell. 

24 minutes ago, MarkFeld said:

This might sound nit picky, but...

It’s not a given that prices will be lower at shows than on-line. And I have rarely seen a Saint of any date or grade that looked “proof like”.

Agreed on the show prices vs online as a given , but in my experience show prices are generally cheaper than online and/or can negotiated down below online prices.

My other point was that coins that look stunning in hand, with sufficient magnification, can look bad. 

Ditto on what others have said, especially the advice of not buying this coin online. Go to shows if you can to save the required online payment markup and to see if the coin speaks to you.

A stunning, high grade coin blown up will look like it has tons of issues but could look proof like in hand.

I recently bought a high end but common date Saint at the FUN show. I took the time to look at literally dozens in cases, stopping to look more closely at about 8 of these with my magnifying glass under a close light source. I was looking at MS66 primarily but also 65’s if they caught my eye. Some were CAC and some were not. 

The one I ended up buying happened to be an MS65+ CAC and it was one of the best Saints I have ever seen. It spoke to me, and I could not believe how good it looked in hand.

So take your time and look at them at a larger show if at all possible.

2 hours ago, USAuPzlBxBob said:

I chatted with the Mint website yesterday… price of the gold coin will be revealed at noon next Thursday.

But, knowing its composition and mass:  90% Au, 6% Ag, and 4% Cu; total mass = 8.359-grams.  Gold content = 7.52-grams.

That then puts things at 7.52/28.35 = 0.2654-oz Au x $1,292/oz. = $343.  So, figure around $400 — $500 dollars per coin.

I figure it will come in just north of $500 after submittal to NGC.

If you are allowed to order more than one coin, and you would want to compare two, to then send the best one off for grading, the way to do it is make two separate orders to the Mint, to receive two separate packages.  Then, the coin you deem as inferior you can send back to the Mint, and I think you have up to one month to make your return.

For returns to the Mint, they only accept total returns, and not partial returns.  So, if you had ordered two coins together, one shipment/package, you cannot keep one and return the other.
 

Perhaps to avoid just what you described

23 minutes ago, USAuPzlBxBob said:

Wait, wait wait… Ag is Silver, not gold!

Only one Gold coin next week, but two silver coins.

And one clad coin.

Duh...must be the pain meds.

Stunning Buffalo! What grade?

I know what you mean, my FUN acquired Saint is more stunning in hand. 

Hmmm....I only read about the $5 gold coin which will be .85”. I’ve not read about a larger gold coin.

I’m interested in the gold too.

Cool about the West Point note.

58 minutes ago, investinrehabs said:

I have another question for you experienced collectors. The mint is selling the Apollo 11 and a Kennedy half in a "set." They want an astounding $54 for the 2 coins. So I looked at the composition of both coins and low and behold, there's not a gram of silver in either coin. IMHO, that price is outrageous! I could understand the price if they were maybe 50% silver or whatever. So I'm really curious to see what you long time collectors think about the price. Maybe I'm missing something here! Thanks in advance. 

I personally would not bother with the clad, just no real value there.

2 hours ago, USAuPzlBxBob said:

Following this with extreme interest.

I suppose I should look back at how NGC graded and encapsulated the baseball glove from several years ago.

Nine days and counting, and a $5 U.S. Gold coin will eventually become available as the capstone to my entire (albeit small) U.S. Gold Collection.

Question:  Would every coin that comes from the Mint direct have a highest possible grade if submitted to NGC for encapsulation?

Time to start strategizing how to obtain a finest, and NCG encapsulated, coin.

Let me just add that I went into my library a second ago and looked at my Life magazine Special Edition from 1969, framed for many, many years, now.

On the cover — the entire-cover — is the upper torso and helmet photo of Buzz Aldrin, the exact photo that the coins will commemorate, and on his right arm is his autograph, that he at first refused when I appeared before him, when the line of people passed by him to get a handshake.  "No autographs, please," we had been admonished earlier, from the head table of dignitaries.  But I pleaded with him when my handshake "turn" occurred, and being a little boy at the time, he relented and took the fine point Magic Marker pen from my hand, placed the magazine before him on his lap (he was seated), uncapped the pen, touched the point to the lower corner of the magazine to insure the "ink" would flow nicely, and signed a beautiful autograph on his right arm in the photo.

Found this image Online:

I have room for one more coin in my puzzle box, and this will be it, one way or another.

 

I think it's luck of the draw as to whether coins from the mint will grade at PF69 or PF70. 

Related...my wife bought me a Monnaie de Paris gold commemorative coin some years ago.  I submitted it to NGC and was pleasantly surprised when it came back PF70.

I stopped by the US Mint booth at the FUN show Saturday to see if they had the price on the forthcoming gold commem but no info as of yet. 

Finding my way back to this one, the production will be 50,000 for the $5 gold version of the US Mint coin:  https://www.usmint.gov/coins/coin-medal-programs/commemorative-coins/apollo-11-50th-anniversary-gold

I'm curious to see how much they charge for $311 worth of gold in this coin. 

It’s offered through Modern Coinmart: 

https://www.moderncoinmart.com/tags/apollo-11-robbins-medal/?ad=mms230&msclkid=efdabd21a6d81e954901e10f6c67e5f2&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=SB | Robbins Medal&utm_term=%2Brobbins %2Bmedal&utm_content=Robbins Medal

Here is the link for the 1/2 oz gold coin:

https://www.moderncoinmart.com/1969-2019-apollo-11-50th-anniversary-robbins-medals-1-2-oz-gold-matte-proof-medal-scarce-and-unique-coin-division-ngc-gem-proof-fdi-sku54530.html

You have to call for the price, but it’s $1995.

My bad, I thought you were referring to the Apollo 11 Robbins medal reissue.

>$1995 for the half ounce gold Apollo 11 reissue coin.

They are limiting production to a quantity of #2018 as I recall.

I’d love to have one, but $1995 for $620 worth of gold is absurd. $1000 would be a more reasonable price in my mind including a good markup. I can only imagine what they will charge when they release the full ounce gold coin.

Finally found a $3 Indian Princess that 'talked to me' as they say.  It looks really nice in hand, the picture seems to exaggerate the small scratches on the obverse. 

On 12/15/2018 at 9:57 AM, jtryka said:

Picked this one up from a local shop last week, I seldom buy Indians, but let's call it an impulse purchase.

My favorite series.  Looks great!

Among my favorites...AU58 CAC.