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A couple of newps that are a bit out of the norm for me. These are the GC images as I have not taken or had any taken yet.

From a reply to Steve's post on the PCGS forum this appears to be an issue with the PCGS registry as well. I had initially thought this was just a simple issue of the recent domain change at CAC and it was just on the back burner as any entry level programmer could fix that type of issue very quickly. Now I'm wondering if there is a bigger issue either on the CAC side of the fence or on this side. For what it is worth I alerted Ali to this problem in early June, so it is not new.

Fairmont, the collection that keeps on giving, and giving, and giving.

Welcome to this side of the forum, 21 Morgan dollars are super common and not difficult to find, almost any (practically every) dealer is likely to have one, but without any idea of raw vs slabbed, condition or price point it is really impossible to give much help. For certified (slabbed coins) off the top of my head Northeast Numismatics is a good place to look as is JJ Teaparty, and David Lawrence, here are the links to these three. NE JJ DLRC

@EagleRJO it was a long shot to win this with a VF bid, you won't win many (if any) using Roger's bid points in this market and those that you might win will be the dogs, nice coins almost always beat the guide prices. As too your original question, the coin may be overgraded if you are using out of date (antiquated) references like the ANA or Rogers opinion, but under todays market grading it looks to be a perfect XF, and the bidders agreed.

Yes that does happen now and then. The bad news is it looks like it may have damaged the dollar coin.

Welcome to the forum, this needs to be posted in the Marketplace section of this forum. Additionally you need to provide photos of the obv and rev of each coin and the price you are asking. I hope you are not expecting much, from these photos you have about $5 retail value for the coins in your post. I have flagged this post for the mod to move to the correct area of the forum, please do not attempt to start a new thread for selling these, that just gets confusing

The best course of action is to post these photos on the CONECA forum and ask if they think it is worthy of an in-hand review as a new discovery. I suspect that this is just very deceptive die deterioration, but that is how I would proceed.

You can choose to cross at the same grade only on the submission form. That way NGC will not downgrade any that do cross. The downside is you may (likely will have) some that may not cross. Personally I think too many people are overly hung up on the holder thing, the coin is what really matters 99% of the time. The only exception is for some older holders where the market adds value for the holder. Keeping in mind my comments are for US coins, ancient and foreign coins can have other considerations.

Agreed, looks to be the typical tourist souvenir piece.

Welcome to the forum, no the coin is not double stamped, and the correct terminology would be double struck. This is what is called a "vise job", another cent was pressed into this coin. Often done with a bench vise tool (hence the name) but can be done a few different ways, notice how the letters are in reverse, that is how you know it is not a real error. And yes this comes up often, in fact this very coin looks oddly familiar.

Quite recently forum member @FlyingAl was offering a special on his photographic services for old holder coins on the PCGS forum. So I decided to take him up on that offer and sent 11 coins to him for some professional photos. He has posted a few times here on this forum also and for those who do not know he is a YN, so this was in my mind great for us both as I get photos to use and he receives some monies to put toward his collecting or life goals. In the past I have used (and still do) the photographic services of Mark Goodman, but it is always nice to compare different photographic artists. I am very impressed with the quality of the photos that FlyingAl provided and can highly recommend him to anyone that would like the use of such a service. So now some of the photos. Might take a few posts as there are quite a few photos.

The reason NGC has no VAM11's listed for this date/mm is that they will not attribute this VAM. Unlike PCGS who will attribute even the most minute variety, NCG only attributes what is on the list that @EagleRJO gave you a link to. I personally don't think it makes any financial sense to grade this coin as I don't see it grading over MS64, MS63 is more likely imo. Plus it is a common date with tens of thousands already graded. However, if you have reasons other than financial then it may be worth it for you, just remember not to pay for the variety service as the VAM will not be listed and NGC will not refund the variety fee. FYI, NGC pop reports show 25.6+ graded in MS63 and 41.4+ thousand in MS64.

Congratulations on your patience, it has paid off. I actually prefer the IS albums, being a copper guy, but I do have the 7070 (no gold) Dansco but no photos as I've never taken any of that album. Only needs a with moto seated dollar to complete the album, someday perhaps.

I have heard some of those capsules can be real buggers to open, just go slow and take your time so you don't damage the coin. I would think that tapping the sides with a hammer, similar to cracking a slab, would help to free the coin.

I just want to add something to what I wrote above, just because most copper collectors perfer a red coin there is a base of collectors (which has grown over the past ten years) that very much likes toned copper both proof and business strike. I just want to mention this as it sounds like you have been on the sidelines of numismatics for a bit and may not be aware of this trend. For that group your coin might be very well liked and thus is not without value, the key is to get it in front of those eyeballs.

Bob is correct, that is a very common clash mark on Morgan dollars.

Same canned reply that I received back on the 8th or 9th when I notified NGC of the issue.

Too late putting it in a slab now will not reverse what has happened. As mentioned above copper collectors will most of the time prefer a red coin for coins of this vintage, spending money having this graded and slabbed would be a waste imo.

I alerted @Ali E. to this issue on Jun 8th, clearly it is not an issue that NGC is concerned about.