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So... 6 next year?

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Revenant

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So, the awards deadline has come and gone, and I made the joke to Shandy along the lines of, "Well, I lost the 50 Lire this year, but I managed to win in 4 Italian categories instead of 2 this year, so that's cool, right?" Her response was, "So, you're going to get me 6 next year, right?" "You planning to up my budget? :S" More seriously, my quip back to her would be that I'll feel pretty good about it if I manage the defend the title on 2 or 3 of these 4 next year. I seem to be decently good at calling attention to categories and getting more sets created. lol 

Can you tell which one was created as a bit of an afterthought that I haven't had a chance to really mess with yet? Seriously.... I thought I'd made and posted a banner for all of these, then I actually looked at the 5 Lire set last night and was like... O.o "Ooops."

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At some point I'm also wanting to work with an image of the 1994 500L to work on and differentiate the 500 Lire type set banner from the non-circulating commemorative date set. But it works for now. 

Most of these coins that I haven't bought raw and graded myself have come from 1 dealer in particular and they've had some MS67 1981 200 Lire coins - celebrating the first observation of UN FAO's World Food Day - that I'd been wanting to get and add to the 200 Lire Type set. The only problem was, consistent with their usual, they'd listed the coins at $300 each, which is.... Silly. lol 

Just for Lawls, and as a reminder to myself I watched the listing on eBay. The seller then offered me a 15% discount. $255. Which was... Slightly less silly. "Nah. You can still keep it at that price."

As has tended to be the case, they eventually listed one for $50, which was starting to become more reasonable. I'm pretty okay to let someone recover their grading fees and make a little money if it is a good grade and they're saving me the work of hunting and submitting myself. When they're half-way reasonable on price I like these people. They make my life much easier on these sets, letting me focus more energy in other areas, so I do want them to continue having an incentive to keep submitting and supplying me with coins.

So, I watched that listing thinking I might pull the trigger on it later. Then the seller offers me another 10% discount, knocking it down to $45. At that point I finally showed it to Shandy, and she was with me on taking it at that price.

$45 plus shipping - down 85% of the original ask.

I am still frequently amazed by and in awe of what people will ask for on these rarely-graded, thinly-collected-as-graded-coins, modern condition rarities, frequently bragging up that the coin is Top Pop (for now, but in no way guaranteed to remain such).

I'm really looking forward to getting this one in, and when I do, I think it's going to be time to look into updating the 200 Lire banner to show off some of the different designs.

I suspect she'll take this one and add it to her small-but-growing stash. So I may have to steal it for the short term to take the pictures.

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One coin I'd particularly enjoy adding to this set would be the 1980 issue:

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Between the child hugging the woman and the book in her lap I think that's almost a perfect design for my wife.

Interestingly, this coin also references UN FAO, but unlike with the 1981 coin, I haven't researched this to figure out what the connection to FAO is with this one.

 

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As has tended to be the case, they eventually listed one for $50, which was starting to become more reasonable.

I hadn't looked at this seller in quite awhile and they seem to have raised their prices quite a bit from where they were. I seem to remember most of the auction listings starting off at around $30 or less, now it looks like most listings start around $40 or higher. :whatthe: 

$20-$30 for a graded modern that almost no one collected was livable, but I'm having trouble coming to grips with $40.

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On 11/7/2022 at 7:21 AM, Fenntucky Mike said:

$20-$30 for a graded modern that almost no one collected was livable, but I'm having trouble coming to grips with $40.

For me there's a healthy dose of "it depends" on this.

The thing for me is, it takes a decent amount of time to find Raw coins or lots for sale, get them, look for ones that are good enough, fill out the forms, and send them in and wait for them to get back. For a smaller set (many of these sets are under 15 coins), it's not a terrible thing to me to pay someone else $20 to do that work for me and give me a guaranteed MS67 or MS68. Like I said, it lets these be more of an "easy" project while I then save my other efforts for things like Venezuela and Zimbabwe, which others are not grading at the moment.

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On 11/7/2022 at 11:27 AM, Revenant said:

The thing for me is, it takes a decent amount of time to find Raw coins or lots for sale, get them, look for ones that are good enough, fill out the forms, and send them in and wait for them to get back. For a smaller set (many of these sets are under 15 coins), it's not a terrible thing to me to pay someone else $20 to do that work for me and give me a guaranteed MS67 or MS68. Like I said, it lets these be more of an "easy" project while I then save my other efforts for things like Venezuela and Zimbabwe, which others are not grading at the moment.

Totally makes sense from that perspective. My dealings were more along the lines of picking up a few low cost world coins in high grades for gifts or just because I liked the design, etc., not for set construction. Guess I need to come to terms with the fact that things ain't getting any cheaper and that prices are not going to fall back anytime soon. I need to stop being such a tight arse, but I'll probably move more towards raw coins and modern mint sets and the like as opposed to graded coins for impulse buys/gifts, I feel there is more value for my $20-$40+ that way. 

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On 11/7/2022 at 10:45 AM, Fenntucky Mike said:

Totally makes sense from that perspective. My dealings were more along the lines of picking up a few low cost world coins in high grades for gifts or just because I liked the design, etc.,

Yeah. I actually have a specific interest in these sets and series. I wouldn't be paying these prices for something as an impulse or a "Oh, well that's a little neat." kind of thing.

 

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I also know the problem of silly prices in Germany. Just because something is graded doesn't justify ten times the price. but if something is available at a normal price +50€ or so, i'll grab it right away. Knowing the grade directly and saving the effort of sending it in is definitely worth it

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