Quarter Eagle (Off Center)

[Bruce-migration]

I'm wondering if this error would add much value to the coin, any help would be appreciated. TIA

[TomB]

Okay, maybe I'm missing something, but, what's the error?

[Bruce-migration]

Off center at 6 o'clock... did you look at the pic?

 

[TomB]

Yes, I looked at the picture. How else would I not know what the error was? I still don't see an off center coin in your image, are you certain you are linking the proper image?

[Leothelion]

I see irregularities in the denticles, short ones at 12:00 and a gradual increase in the lengths as they head south to 6:00.

 

Leo

[Bruce-migration]

If you look at the top you can see a rim out side of the beads, and on the bottom thr bead go right to the out side edge of the coin and off a little.

[Bruce-migration]

Better light on the bottom of the coin.

[TomB]

I also see the irregularities in the denticles, however, I don't believe this to be due to an off center strike. Rather, I think the striking pressure was not uniform, or, there was some post minting damage. I would lean to an uneven strike. In my opinion, and I am not an expert on errors, this coin would not be an error and would not be off center.

[jom]

Given that the "error" is either hard to see or non-exsistant I'd say there would be no premium on this coin, IMO.

 

jom

[Leothelion]

What were they using back then, a screw press? It was probably a common problem with coins of that era is my guess.

 

Leo

[Leothelion]

Also could be due to uneven wear of the used die due to the uneven pressure from the press.

 

Leo

[Bruce-migration]

Hmmm ..I don't believe I'm the only one who can see the error. I'm new to all this coin stuff so please take that into account.

 

Ok at twelve o'clock on the coin you will see a nice flat rim on the edge, which is outside the "beads".

At 6 o'clock you will see that the "beads " go right to the edge of the coin.

 

I have done a little research on the net and have found out that errors on gold coins are very rare. Here is a link to to a coin that is just a little bit more off center that the one I have a it sold for 13,500, Take a look and tell me what you think?

 

 

http://www.raregoldcoins.com/get_cotm.asp?cotmYear=2002&cotmMonth=3

[Leothelion]

Well, this makes it more interesting to a degree but definitely, there are collectors out there who get excited about this type of error. Your coin may be 1-2% off. I have one certified coin that's been labeled a "partial collar" error. The coin itself has two misaligned collars on the third side if I said that right but there's nothing broadstrucked about it. I can't take a pic of it since it's in a slab.

 

Good luck with your coin, you may have something there if the error is considered significant enough.

 

Leo

[TomB]

I still don't think your coin is off center at all and it does not match the coin that Doug Winter is selling.

[truthteller]

Hi Bruce,

 

Your coin appears as if it has solder residue in the center. If so, it may have been a piece of jewelry or part of a cufflink. If that is indeed the case, the coin may have be altered at one point, giving an unusual appearance.

 

TRUTH

[Bruce-migration]

Hi Truth

 

No it's just a discoloration of some sort but no residue, I've looked at it with a hand held microscope.

[EZ_E]

Howdy, Bruce.

 

The coin that sold for $13K was a broadstruck error, struck without the collar around the edges in order to keep the metal from bulging out around the rim as the planchet is struck. That's why it brought such a premium.

 

I can see what you mean about your example being slighly off-center but I believe that this is fairly common. It certainly is common on modern coins.

 

Even though you may not have a mini-treasure, it is still a good collectable.

 

Good luck.

[Klectorkid]

Its very common for coins to be slightly off center like this. I have a gold dollar slabbed by NGC thats the same why. Not worth a premium.

[EVillageProwler]

Pardon me, but I too do not see an o/c striking.

 

EVP

 

[michael]

for me

 

 

this is 100% absolutely **NOT** an off center coin

 

 

 

michael

 

[Chippewa]

I know you said the discoloration in the center is not solder, but it sure looks like jewelry damage to me.

[Bruce-migration]

You're right, technically it's a "die misalignment" and it's a rare error for any U.S. mint gold coin. I bet you won't find many "if any" simular gold coins errors on the net.

 

[TomB]

You can lead a horse to water...

 

Why don't you send it in to the third party certification service of your choice as an error and see how the coin comes back?

[DWLange]

I can't speak for other grading services, but NGC would not label your coin as a mint error or anything out of the ordinary. The slight misalignment of the die is too trivial to add any value.

[Bruce-migration]

Here is a email I recieved from Sarah at Customer Service.

 

 

Mr. xxxxxx,

>

> I have asked our error expert, Dave Camire, and he says it sounds like

your

> coin may have had misaligned dies, and depending on the severity, we MIGHT

> label it as a mint error. We would need to see the coin in person to

> evaluate it and determine how it would be labeled.

>

> Sincerely,

>

> Sarah Martin

> NGC - Customer Service 1(800)642-2646.

>

 

[MAULEMALL]

I can't speak for other grading services, but NGC would not label your coin as a mint error or anything out of the ordinary. The slight misalignment of the die is too trivial to add any value.

 

 

Mr Lange is one of the guns at NGC.I think I would take his advice and save a couple dollars.