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Wanna see a really rare coin?

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Major off center error coins are pretty scarce. Most pattern coins are very rare but major errors on pattern coins are unheard of. This new purchase arrived in todays mail and I am very happy to add it to the pattern collection. laugh.gif J151 listed as R6 in Judd PCGS pr 65 and 60% off center

 

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Here is a quote from ANR's lot description when they auctioned the coin, a part of the Hogan Pond Collection.

"Pattern coins that are also significant mint errors are as rare as passenger piegons, white-winged black birds or even hens teeth. In brief, although here at ANR the cataloguers have seen just about everything there is to see, this truly is a first! In fact when it arrived and John Pack unwrapped it, he hurried around to show everyone."

 

The lot description goes on to state, "Considering the entire range of patterns in the Judd book, over 1800 varieties, we are not aware of a single other mint error that can hold a candle to the presently offered coin. We can readily imagine that for the pattern specialist this will be the coin of coins, the showpiece of showpieces."

 

Well for me it isn't exactly the coin of coins but it is surely unique, very cool and it adds another dimension to my collection. I am delighted to have it laugh.gif

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That is something to talk about. Thank you for showing that awesome error. What not going to tell us how much it set you back? I'll take a guess and say $4100.00 thumbsup2.gif

 

$4100? I think you left off a zero. :-)

 

I don't have any idea what he paid, but since I do know what it went for in the ANR auction I will hazzard a guess that it was somewhere close to the middle of your two guesses--maybe a little closer to the top end.

 

By the way, I don't care for errors--nor am I much of a connoisseur of patterns but I LIKE this one.

 

 

 

 

 

Edit to add: I just noticed that it is now a PCGS Proof-65 instead of the NGC Proof-63 that it was auctioned as so the 41000 guess may be right.

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Question...maybe this can be answered?

 

With pattern coin striking, were the chutes loaded with planchets just like ordinary struck coinage or was there something special going on there?

 

Trying to figure out how this special pattern striking got that off center and how did it get out of the mint?

 

Were there orders to save ALL the pattern coins struck and that's how it was put with the others?

 

Help.

 

edit: Oh yeah, nice coin Boiler78, one of a kind for sure!

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I saw a picture of this coin recently. But our friend doesn't work there anymore. 893scratchchin-thumb.gif I've seen a pattern Liberty 5c struck even further off center, but I can't remember who had it in inventory. Have you seen it?

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Question...maybe this can be answered?

 

With pattern coin striking, were the chutes loaded with planchets just like ordinary struck coinage or was there something special going on there?

 

Trying to figure out how this special pattern striking got that off center and how did it get out of the mint?

 

Were there orders to save ALL the pattern coins struck and that's how it was put with the others?

 

Help.

 

edit: Oh yeah, nice coin Boiler78, one of a kind for sure!

I'm no expert, but I do know back in them days alot of coins made there way out of the mint that were not supposed to leave the mint, even to the point of coins being minted that were not supposed to be minted.

I believe the Aluminum cent that is illegal to own, had some help!

1933 ST. Gaudens, a little help!

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Very cool Boiler. 893applaud-thumb.gif I bet that's one of those coins that when you look at it again (and again and again and again...) it makes you happy to look at.

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Very cool Boiler. 893applaud-thumb.gif I bet that's one of those coins that when you look at it again (and again and again and again...) it makes you happy to look at.

 

I bet that it's one of those coins that you look at it, take pictures of it, and stick in a bank deposit box for 25 years gossip.gif

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Boiler,

 

As those have indicated above, truly fantastic, interesting, amazing and such a wonderful coin to have. Superb. hail.gifcloud9.gif

 

Rey

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Lou- I have not seen nor heard of the off center pattern Liberty nickel but I would be interested to hear more about it if you can remember who had it. The only other "major" pattern error that I am aware of is a J648 flipover double struck pattern dime that is also very impressive. uspatterns.com J648

 

I am not an expert on the minting process but it is my understanding that pattern coins were struck one at a time on a medal press. Error coins were typically destroyed but this one was apparently so striking that it was saved from the scrap heap.

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Can we see what this pattern coin was supposed to look like?

 

Anyone?

 

Thanks for showing a whole coin Boiler78...just to dang cool. cloud9.gif

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WoodenJefferson- Here is what the coin should look like struck with a regular 1853 quarter eagle obverse die paired with a pattern reverse. laugh.gif

 

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This is actually a J150 struck in German silver but the design and overall look is identical, in fact without testing it is impossible to tell the difference between the two.

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I've seen a few of those wink.giftongue.gif Just kidding, very cool thumbsup2.gif

 

Seen one!? i have a few of those in my saftey deposit box! right next to the ultra high releif saint and the 1804 dollar.....

 

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I've never seen a pattern error so dramatic, even in a photo. That's a WOW! coin. Coins where the grade is hardly relevant are few and far between, but that one qualifies.

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