grading standard for 1837 Feuchtwanger cent and 1863 Army Navy token

[JKK]

Wondering if grading standards for those can be found anywhere online, or if anyone here is very knowledgeable about them. They're both in pretty good shape, I'd eyeball them in the XF realm, but I'd like to put a defensible grade on each.

[michael]

post them here and let me give it a shot

 

the photos have to be really good camera shots

 

also go on the heritage auction archives and you will see many past auction sales that are graded and you can guesstimate your coins grade pretty closely

 

with these photos to compair to your feute. cent

[TomB]

Michael hit the nail on the head when he suggested using the Heritage archives.

[JKK]

I can at least scan them. I'm terrible at image manipulation, always afraid I'm somehow going to dump some monster pic on the board and annoy everyone, but let's give it a go.

 

 

[JKK]

You guys are right. That Heritage archive has a lot of examples sortable by grade.

 

I'm going to take a guess at XF-40 for the Feucht and AU-50 for the AN token. But that guess isn't very educated. The scratches below the bird's head on the Feucht are pretty unattractive, but overall it's a decent coin though not a very accurate die strike. The token scanned rather unkindly relative to what it really looks like, unfortunately, but its wear is very light and consistent with the AU concept in other coins. Looks to be a solid strike, but with no mint luster.

[Hoot]

Very nice pieces. I've owned (and still own) a few Feuchtwanger cents and have had a few graded by PCGS. Yours looks like a solid XF40 piece, perhaps 45, even with the scratches. The high central points, obverse and reverse, are often weak on that coin. The CWT looks like a 45 to me. Both very nice.

[michael]

strong XF nice original great eye appeal for the feut

 

nice xf++ to au for the civil war token and has good eye appeal

[michael]

ode to a feuct.

 

why my tender feuct. were you not made into a federally issued coin

 

you symbolize early america with her defiant eagle vanquising her enemys that choose to take control of this growing "free" nation

 

why why.............oh tender feuct. were you flatly rejected only to be appreciated, admired and collected by 21st century advanced collectors that love and understand your beauty, history and value a gateway to the past american way of life

[JKK]

Thanks very much for the input. I'm especially gratified given that my scanner really renders coins a shade uglier than their reality. The Feucht actually looks more silvery as I look it over in person, though the scanner was certainly honest about the hints of corrosion of Herr Feuchtwanger's odd alloy. Too bad the scratches are in such a focal area, right under the eagle's head. It was purchased for me as XF, and the coin dealer has a history of fairly conservative grading, so XF-45 seems quite credible.

 

The A&N token is another that suffered unjustly in the scanner image. Instead of that washed-out, mottly kind of brown look, it has the look of an old but well-kept Lincoln penny with rich bronze. The wear points are lighter and coppery-brighter, giving lady Liberty the look of strawberry blonde highlights and actually helping the reverse's look by making the lettering seem more prominent. The dies weren't quite lined up, as I understand happened with some of those; guess that's pretty evident from the scan. I'm quite glad to think it too would ring the bell for XF-45.

 

I wish there was a way to post pics without having to upload them to Imageshack or someplace; I'd post more. Thanks again for being a great resource.

[TomB]

The scratches are unfortunate, but the Feuchtwanger still has very good eye appeal and I believe has better than EF40 details.

[James_OldeTowne]

Many years ago, I owened an ANACS MS-66. It was an astounding coin, and was told by several specialists that it was the finest they had ever seen. The best struck coin I've ever owned was in an NGC AU-58 holder. Sadly, I didn't keep images of either coin - they were early on in my numismatic career, and all I had were lousy scans.