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FSH: 1857 1/2 Cent PCGS MS62 & 1913 Brz Germany 2M Bav X-1B 2M Goetz 65 BN Cam

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Super nice example with some original mint red remaining and lustre shining through. Nice mix of colors both obverse and reverse. Was NGC MS63BN. $350 delivered. "ON HOLD"







In 1913 Karl Goetz designed his first patterns. He made two sets, one depicting Emperor Wilhelm II, on its obverse side, and the other set showing King Ludwig of Bavaria, also on the obverse side. The reverses for both sets are identical. The pattern sets were made in pure silver and number only six sets of each. Goetz was not allowed to sell any 'after strikes" in rare metals according to law so he struck up five coin sets in values of 2, 3, 5, 10 and 20 Mark pieces. The metals used were either brass, bronze, bronze-copper, or copper. Any of these metals, with the exception of the brass, can also be found in silver gilt (versilbert) or gold gilded (vergoldet) examples. The bronze and copper examples are the most prevalent. None of these patterns (K-76,K-77) were accepted as designs for regular currencies. In the case of these Emperor Wilhelm II and King Ludwig patterns, the outbreak of World War I and its outcome determined the fate of these pieces. They were discarded when the rulers were deposed. There are examples made from gold and platinum too but these were probably struck after it was known that the patterns would not become official German coinage. Goetz made many more pattern designs but none were ever accepted as coinage. $275 delivered






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