WinstonWare Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Winston, if you saw this coin in-hand you would not think it too clean for me; it is dark and the surfaces quite nice. The image is taken with quite a bit of light and the deep navy is not showing up. The coin is relatively high in grade (EF45) and it did not pick up much circulation dirt, nor did it pick up any real circulation marks or injuries. It fits quite well with my other coins. Ah, that makes sense. Nice pickup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeKing Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 I posted after the Baltimore show that I purchased three coins, and one of those coins was immediately put on the boards, but the other two coins were never shared. This is one of the two previously not shown coins. It is an 1806/5 Draped Bust half graded EF45 by PCGS. The images, while quite good, really do not capture the character of the coin. The areas that appear darker on the screen are actually a deep, frosty navy in color while the remainder of the coin is the grey that appears in the images. I was beginning to wonder about that. I thought you may have left them at Bob's house. Tom, I'm not very knowledgeable on Bust Halves, but I just noticed that 6 of the stars on the obverse appear larger than the other 7. It doesn't look like it's due to wear either. Can you explain? Chris that's an excellent coin Tom, a very fortunate find and a great pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyMan Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Tom, that's a really PRETTY coin! It definitely floats my boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinstonWare Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Just got this in the mail today. I’m using the seller’s pics because they’re better than I could do. A nice strike for an 1809…right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 This 1809 looks quite nice and is a fairly high grade, too. Are the images correct in portraying the coin as a neutral auburn or is the coin lighter and more grey in-hand? I have the feeling that I would like this coin in-hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeKing Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 I like this 1809 very much Winston. Is it an iiii edge, plain edge, xxxx edge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinstonWare Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Thanks guys. I was hoping for your opinions The coin may be a little more gray but it isn’t lighter. If anything the coin is darker than the picture portrays, at least on my monitor. Looks to be a plain edge variety. The coin is raw. Do you think it has a shot at AU? What about after a quick dip ? Totally just joking with you guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MunkyMan95 Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Close to AU, but I don't think it's quite there. High XF. Say XF45? If you dip it, it'd look like a shiny XF45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinstonWare Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Close to AU, but I don't think it's quite there. High XF. Say XF45? If you dip it, it'd look like a shiny XF45. Are you paying attention read me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MunkyMan95 Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Excuse me, shiny AU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirrored Morgan Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinstonWare Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Sharp looking coin there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123cents Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Just got this NGC graded Bust Half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJSingleton Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 So whats up with those stars? Is that a distortion in the image, or are those star points really elongated toward the rims? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanda Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 My 1827 has stars extending towards the rim like that, and someone told me it was because it was a late die state. Someone could have been pulling my leg, though. Here is a new buffalo for my quirky herd. He's got reverse clash marks in the usual place near EPU from the Indian's neck, but curiously there are no matching marks under the Indian's chin. This leads me to believe that the obverse die was either effaced or changed while the reverse die was left alone. Also, something about the rims nags at the back of my mind, but I can't quite put my finger on it. The strike for this issue is often INCREDIBLY weak, owing to several factors like worn dies and an increased distance between dies during striking. Also, the first two digits in the date are often weak, as is seen on this example. With a mintage of 4.8 million, it's a nice date, hardly a key though. I grade this one a strong G-6. -Amanda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 What is imaged with the stars "pulling" toward the rim is not an artifact of the image. This may in part be due to die fatigue, but might more likely be due to the fact that no restraining collar was used with these pieces when minted. The open collar used on this series allowed the metal to flow not only into the design elements but also allowed it to flow toward the edge. This resulted in halves that might be somewhat different in diameter as well as spread or pulled letters, numbers and stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJSingleton Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 What is imaged with the stars "pulling" toward the rim is not an artifact of the image. This may in part be due to die fatigue, but might more likely be due to the fact that no restraining collar was used with these pieces when minted. The open collar used on this series allowed the metal to flow not only into the design elements but also allowed it to flow toward the edge. This resulted in halves that might be somewhat different in diameter as well as spread or pulled letters, numbers and stars. Tnanks Tom. I'm not a bust half guy and I happen to have an 1817 and mine does not display similar stars. That's why I asked. Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyMan Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Fun coins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showcase4 Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 I traded an MS-63 1909S VDB Lincon cent for this piece a few days ago.....how did I do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MunkyMan95 Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 A+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzLarry Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 (edited) Added this frosty 1956 Ty2 Franklin to my type set. NGC graded as PF68UCAM. Larry Edited December 16, 2006 by AzLarry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwaine Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 That's a nice Franklin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruceswar Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 I traded an MS-63 1909S VDB Lincon cent for this piece a few days ago.....how did I do? I think you did fairly well if you ask me. Whats the grade on this coin??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAULEMALL Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Larry,,that is a monster Franklin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldhair Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Nice looking Franklin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanda Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 I like that Frankiln, Larry. What makes it a Type 2? My dad bought me this dime for my type collection. I am not sure about how original it is, though. It's got an odd sort of sheen to it, that doesn't translate well in the images, unfortunately. Any ideas? Thanks. -Amanda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyMan Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 First off, not too shabby a trade for a '09-S VDB. Fun "with arrows" Amanda. Nice looking Frankie Larry! What makes it a Type 2? The type refers to the eagle on the reverse. The Type 1 has a low relief eagle with 4 feathers to the left of the perch. All 1956 business strikes were type 1. The Type 2 has a high relief eagle with 3 feathers to the left of the perch. In 1956 roughly 95% of the proofs were type 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkenefic Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Not the most recent....but the most recent one for which I have an image: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruceswar Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 The 1914 D Lincoln is always a nice one. Congrats on the pick up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkenefic Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Bruce...thanks... my most recent newps are some early copper pieces I picked up from some board members from the other website. I got an 1852 (VF30) and a '54 (XF40) from Rare Coins of New Hampshire and a '56 from a different board member. The '56 came in PCI plastic at XF45 but I grade it more conservatively at 35 with some small carbon spots on the reverse. I'll try to get pics over the holidays. L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
