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1883-O Morgan - PCGS is tighter than NGC?

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I bought this coin from Tim Puro a while back in a NGC MS62 holder. For the heck of it, I cracked it out and sent it to PCGS, who graded it MS63.

 

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The eye appeal makes it an upper end 62 to me. But I think if it was regular white it'd be a 61/62. But that's great eye appeal. smile.gif

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Perhaps it's just the lighting, but there appear to be quite a few scuffmarks on the coin for an MS63 grade. How is the reverse? No doubt the graders at PCGS let the toning forgive some of the facial imperfections.

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I was counting on it coming back as a 62. I gave it a very outside shot of 63. The reason I pointed this out is all the talk of PCGS tightening their grading, which obviously isn't the case, at least with Morgans.

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This is unquestionably an MS-62 coin to me. That's an awful lot of surface abrasion in the right obverse field for a so-called "choice" coin. I do believe that PCGS is more apt to give a slight push to coins with attractive toning, though. But honestly, I think both services grade Morgans about on par, though I also think many nicer NGC coins get cracked out for submission to PCGS.

 

James

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You might pop it out and send it to NGC and they might grade it MS63 as well! There isn't a lot of difference in MS62 and MS63, IMO. If you had asked what grade? I would of said MS63 anyway. The coin has nice toning and the value would be about the same MS 62 or '63, also IMO... Nice coin...

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I believe NGC is the best, I haven't bought a PCGS coin in 8 months, although I'm looking at a PCGS MS-69 Vietnam commem. Wish it were a NGC graded commem

 

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No big deal----PCGS upped an 83O NGC63DPL to 64DMPL for me, but was hard on rarer dates. Basically I don't think they give much thought to grades if there's little value difference between 62 and 64 like this one.

 

I guess they think it makes up for any ones that they're being dumb on in the rest of the submission.

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