would someone help identifying this coin from my grandpa? 2 2

[Dustin Devine]

I think it is neat but, its got very light tourquise growth. I remember him tell me coins should not be cleaned. I doubt it has much value.  Also neat colonial notes. nice forums Thank You

[Coinbuf]

Very nice ancient coin and notes, I do not collect in either of these areas but one of the fellows that does will be along soon to help.

[RWB]

Here's a better image of your coin. Please add a photo of the other side.

Edited July 15 by RWB

[Greenstang]

Also the weight and size would be helpful.

[Dustin Devine]

6 grams   3/4"

I am sorry I posted twice, that was an accident

[Halbrook Family]

Can see better pics of the note. Lots of those were reproduced in the 1970's Bicentennial time.  

[Dustin Devine]

better notes being enlarged below.

 

 

 

Edited July 16 by Dustin Devine

[powermad5000]

Hello and welcome!

I am surely not an expert in ancients but clear, cropped pics of both sides of the coin will probably be necessary for identification of it. As for your other question/comment, unless you have something that there is just one of, if there are other pictures of it available on the internet, then people don't need to come here to steal anything. If those have print on both sides, then only show one side if you are worried. People who know what it is will still know what it is.

[Fenntucky Mike]

On 7/15/2024 at 2:22 PM, Dustin Devine said:

The colonial currency looks questionable to me, possibly copies or contemporary counterfeits. The note on the right is representative of Fr# GA-117, Georgia Colonial Note authorized September 10, 1777. Do some research using that description and compare your note to known examples. If you post clearer and cropped images over at PMG of each note myself and others will take a closer look. https://boards.pmgnotes.com/

[RWB]

On 7/15/2024 at 8:25 PM, Dustin Devine said:

6 grams   3/4"

...and a clear photo of the other side, please.

[Dustin Devine]

Everyone Thank You 

for direction & assistance in my nuismatic growth =)

Edited July 16 by Dustin Devine

[Fenntucky Mike]

On 7/16/2024 at 11:29 AM, Dustin Devine said:

Everyone Thank You 

for direction & assistance in my nuismatic growth =)

The notes look like copies of originals and not genuine examples. Probably modern, 20th century, replicas.

[Dustin Devine]

[l.cutler]

The notes notes are definitely replicas. The stiff parchment like paper is the first giveaway.

[RWB]

Please....post sharp, clear photos of both sides of the coin. The tiny coin image in your bottom photo is useless.

Agree that the "notes" are tourist-trap imitations of no value. Notice the artificial "aging" on the edges among many other things.

Edited July 16 by RWB

[Dustin Devine]

Thank you all about notes I should have noticed the artificial aged, will try better pics of coin thank you all comments. I appreciate all the comments Thanks

Edited July 16 by Dustin Devine
add better photos

[Mike Meenderink]

Hello and welcome to the forum. After researching your coin IMO this coin is genuine and is described as the following: Hammered Bronze AE Stater- Didda/Kshenagupta - Joint Issue -Utpala Dynasty  Cheers!

 

 

Æ Stater - Didda/Kshemagupta - Joint Issue - Utpala Dynasty

© ramg1978 (CC BY-NC-SA)

Features

Issuer	Post-Hunnic dynasties of Kashmir (Indian Northern Dynasties)
Type	Standard circulation coin
Years	950-960
Value	1 Stater
Currency	Stater
Composition	Bronze
Weight	6.00 g
Diameter	19 mm
Shape	Round (irregular)
Demonetized	Yes
Number	N# 88550
References	CCK# 6

Obverse

Enthroned Ardoxsho facing. King's Name in Nagari legend on either side of Ardoxho.

Lettering: Di / Kshema

Reverse

Diety

Lettering: Gupta (out of flan)

Translation: King standing(??)

Edge

Plain

[RonnieR131]

Mike Meenderink == Well done Mike, thanks..

[Mike Meenderink]

This diagnostic was not easy. The coin must be oriented correctly to determine the type. Place the cows head at 12 o'clock by saving the pic and rotating it. You will see it perfectly. Theses coins are often offset struck and missing many details, as such this example has missing right side obverse details and missing left side reverse details. I was able to get a positive ID based purely on the cow's head detail as my first clue. Cheers!

Edited July 16 by Mike Meenderink

[RWB]

Oriented like this, obverse on top.

 

Edited July 17 by RWB
Corrected obverse orientation.

[Mike Meenderink]

@RWBBull head up like this

Edited July 16 by Mike Meenderink

[RonnieR131]

Where's JKK? His category for sure.

[RWB]

OK. Thank you! That's what I had originally though until I saw your attribution. The pellets at upper left are the Pleiades cluster in the constellation Taurus. The open circle should be the sun. Is that a crescent moon, also? Does this design commemorate some celestial event or anniversary?

[Dustin Devine]

Wow you Guys are Really Awesome!  This place is so Neat! 

I have been looking at coins and money almost every nite  

copy that  Numismatic Mike Meenderink == Well done Mike, thank you so much

Dustin 

[Just Bob]

The inscription does not match the OP’s coin. It appears to be a later issue.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces44482.html

[Mike Meenderink]

The coin has been terribly struck and significant details are either missing or miss struck as well as damaged by corrosion and hits to the coin. It may be a different mint or area of minting as these coins can vary in detail somewhat but the overall style and appearance is the same. 

On 7/16/2024 at 7:01 PM, Just Bob said:

The inscription does not match the OP’s coin. It appears to be a later issue.

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces44482.html

 

[Just Bob]

It isn’t just a different mint or area, appears so though it is a different ruler and different time period. 

[Dustin Devine]

 I realize its a terrible version of the coin and its value is nothing but is there anything I can do to keep whats left of it as nice as can be. should it stay the way it is? any advice on the green stuff? Thank you I like the story. I wonder where my grandpa picked it up? he was in the Navy WW2 and dad was as well. I went into Nat. Guard. I have a bunch of coins from around ports I guess. Thank You

[Mike Meenderink]

On 7/16/2024 at 5:04 PM, RWB said:

Does this design commemorate some celestial event or anniversary?

I have no idea....lol I'm just in it for the coins not the love stories....

[Mike Meenderink]

On 7/16/2024 at 7:43 PM, Just Bob said:

It isn’t just a different mint or area, appears so though it is a different ruler and different time period. 

Look into it for me. Show us what you are seeing. I see a coin that has damage and may be the NON-Joint Issue coin, which is what may be the difference still, it is attributed correctly to the correct ruler and period IMO.

Edited July 17 by Mike Meenderink