kannerjo Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 (edited) Greetings Brain Trust, When first looking at this 1922 S Peace Dollar, I thought the imperfections on the surface were caused by circulation. However, with magnification and NGC's VarietyPlus reference guide, I realized that what I was looking at could have origins at the mint. What are your thoughts? Specifically, which varieties might this coin exhibit? For example, is a scar cheek a scar cheek when the scar is as high up as the nostril (versus corner of mouth)? I'm just looking to be pointed in the right direction, not an iron-clad "diagnosis." I would be glad to share additional photos if helpful. Thank you. Edited July 11 by kannerjo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Merely circulation induced damage. No mint caused anything. Sandon and kannerjo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWB Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 The areas your photos emphasize are damaged.... Not errors, varieties or anything else. The damage is self-evident. Go to the web site for VAMworld (http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.compute.amazonaws.com/wiki/Peace_Dollar_VAMs) to find detailed listings and photos of legitimate die varieties. Several of the more prominent varieties are also listed in A Guide Book to Peace Dollars (4th edition) by me. Sandon and kannerjo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri Charriere Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Everyone knows my position on this... any discussion of birth defects now, a hun'red-plus years after the fact, are time-barred by my Statute of Limitations on all coins older than twenty-five years. Never in my wildest dreams would I have expected my proposed legislation to be subjected to prolonged filibustering In Congress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powermad5000 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 I think the coin exhibits damage from circulation and also intentional. Be aware using a scope magnifies the smallest thing and turns a die chip into a mountain and a ding into the Grand Canyon that you are simply seeing things that are essentially insignificant. The closeup of the three "dots" is common on these silver dollars and on Morgan dollars and is from the reeds of the edge of another coin that bounced off the surface of this coin imparting those marks. Very common and is just seen as damage from hits. To me it is possible that curve next to the mouth could have been the start of someone turning this coin into a love token but never went beyond that, or that curve was produced by someone hitting the coin with a circular object which was at an angle at the time of impact. As to answer your question about varieties of the 1922 S Peace Dollar, I don't have a good answer for you but I have an answer. There is one major VAM listed by NGC in Variety Plus for Top 50 - VAM 3 TDR Feathers for which tripling is seen on the eagle's leg feathers and adjacent sun rays. If you go to Vam World, there are literally 50-75 VAM's at a glance each with a unique minor marker associated with the VAM and you would need the coin in hand to go down that list and try to find which one it could be if it is one at all. Scar cheek varieties were caused by either a crack or gouge in the die which produced a raised line or raised area on the coin when the coin gets struck. The features on your dollar are incuse, suggesting damage, not a die issue. kannerjo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magdalenahom28 Posted Saturday at 06:46 PM Share Posted Saturday at 06:46 PM (edited) On 7/11/2024 at 9:47 PM, powermad5000 said: I think the coin exhibits damage from circulation and also intentional. Be aware using a scope magnifies the smallest thing and turns a die chip into a mountain and a ding into the Grand Canyon that you are simply seeing things that are essentially insignificant. The closeup of the three "dots" is common on these silver dollars and on Morgan dollars and is from the reeds of the edge of another coin that bounced off the surface of this coin imparting those marks. Very common and is just seen as damage from hits. To me it is possible that curve next to the mouth could have been the start of someone turning this coin into a love token but never went beyond that, or that curve was produced by someone hitting the coin with a circular object which was at an angle at the time of impact. As to answer your question about varieties of the 1922 S Peace Dollar, I don't have a good answer for you but I have an answer. There is one major VAM listed by NGC in Variety Plus for Top 50 - VAM 3 TDR Feathers for which tripling is seen on the eagle's leg feathers and adjacent sun rays. If you go to Vam World, there are literally 50-75 VAM's at a glance each with a unique minor marker associated with the VAM and you would need the coin in hand to go down that list and try to find which one it could be if it is one at all. Scar cheek varieties were caused by either a crack or gouge in the die which produced a raised line or raised area on the coin when the coin gets struck. The features on your dollar are incuse, suggesting damage, not a die issue. I have been collecting coins all my life. For me, it is not just a hobby, but a legacy from my grandfather. For me, it is already like a lottery. I am a gambling person and recently watched a review of Fastpay Casino no deposit bonus, used https://casinosanalyzer.com/casino-bonuses/fastpay-casino.com for this. I don’t know yet what I will do next, but it’s all cool. I know for sure that I will not tie up with coins. Interesting opinion, I didn't think about it. Edited Monday at 10:42 AM by magdalenahom28 kannerjo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
