Mrph12 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 I need help grading this 2000 Wide AM Cent My guest is an MS67 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenstang Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 With those 5 dings on the Obverse, I think that would bring it down to a MS 65 On 5/12/2024 at 9:22 AM, Mrph12 said: I need help grading this 2000 Wide AM Cent My guest is an MS67 J P M 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J P M Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 It is a good looking cent. Maybe a MS65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandon Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 The coin is a close AM, not a wide AM. The "A" and "M" nearly touch at the bottom. The letters are farther apart on the wide AM, as shown on this NGC VarietyPlus photo: As for the grade, the coin appears to have too many nicks and spots to grade MS 67. MS 65, which in my opinion shouldn't be considered a "Gem" grade anymore, is a more reasonable assessment. Mike Meenderink 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coinbuf Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 Why do you think this is a wide AM cent? As to grade it might squeak thru as an MS66, but it's not worth sending for grading at that level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Bob Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 According to the design and placement of the designer's initials, that is a Wide AM. Close Wide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenstang Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 I agree that it is a WAM. Have always said that the worst way of teelling is the distance between the A M, there are too many variables. Besides the initials, you can also tell by e placing of the A between the TAT in STATES. If it is centered, it is a WAM, if the T is not centered, it is a CAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrph12 Posted May 12 Author Share Posted May 12 Here is a close-up shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrph12 Posted May 12 Author Share Posted May 12 closer shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrph12 Posted May 12 Author Share Posted May 12 Thanks, everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 On 5/12/2024 at 10:53 AM, Mrph12 said: Here is a close-up shot. Absolutely a WIDE. Zero doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandon Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 I appear to have been mistaken, but I tried enlarging the area of the "A" and "M" on the original photo and could see no separation at the bottom of the letters before the image became too pixilated. I have no difficulty telling the difference in the "AM" on the actual coins under normal magnification. I can barely see that the "G" in "FG" has a crossbar and slightly more pronounced serif. This post demonstrates the limitations of photos as opposed to viewing actual coins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKurtB Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 (edited) On 5/12/2024 at 4:37 PM, Sandon said: I appear to have been mistaken, but I tried enlarging the area of the "A" and "M" on the original photo and could see no separation at the bottom of the letters before the image became too pixilated. I have no difficulty telling the difference in the "AM" on the actual coins under normal magnification. I can barely see that the "G" in "FG" has a crossbar and slightly more pronounced serif. This post demonstrates the limitations of photos as opposed to viewing actual coins. Agreed. Yet here we are. When will the masochism abate? We have an entire discussion board dependent on photos which are too easy to do poorly, and too difficult to do well. Oh well, I guess I’ll just stick to doing this hobby offline and in person. “Me… and my Explorer ST… rolling down the av-e-nue… (or the Interstate).” Edited May 12 by VKurtB ThePhiladelphiaPenny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
