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[ronday]

This looks (to me at least) like a pretty clear d/d. Obviously the coin has a little oxidation issue on the edges of the coin. Is it worth bothering with?

 

[JKK]

No.

[Sandon]

   I don't think that the ghostly image well to the southeast of the primary image indicates a repunched mintmark ("RPM").  This is more likely from die deterioration and frequently appears around mintmarks. An RPM is generally much crisper in appearance and closer to the primary image.

   I checked the three major 1943-D RPMs shown on VarietyPlus, only two of which have photos, but I was able to find photos of the third in the Cherrypickers' Guide.  I also checked the numerous 1943-D RPMs listed on Wexler's Die Varieties (doubleddie.com) and Variety Vista. See Lincoln Cents, Wheat Reverse (1909-1958) | VarietyPlus® | NGC (ngccoin.com), https://www.doubleddie.com/887255.html, http://www.varietyvista.com/02a LC RPMs Vol 1/RPMs 1943D.htm.  None of these varieties appears to match your coin, but you may want to check these yourself, including the various "die markers" shown by Wexler.

  If by "worth bothering with", you mean submitting to a grading service, the answer even if the coin were identifiable as an RPM, the answer would be no. In the case of a steel cent, the oxidation is literally rust, and this coin could only be "details" graded as environmentally damaged. NGC only attributes the varieties shown on VarietyPlus.

[Coinbuf]

Your coin appears to have significant die deterioration, the anomaly you see is related to that and not an RPM.

Edited March 19 by Coinbuf

[Greenstang]

It can’t be a DDO as the mint marks were hand punched until about 1989.
It also looks like it has been plated which would make it ineligable to be graded.

[Mike Meenderink]

Die subsidence (sunken die)  The surface of a die will some­times sink in, leaving a recess into which coin metal rises. This form of die deformation is presumably the result of abnormally soft die steel. The zone of subsidence will sometimes show cracking along its margin. In the absence of such cracks, the edge will be softly defined. In my opinion this is what has happened to your coin. This scenario is more common on the steel cents since steel dies were used to mint these steel coins and its a pretty hard metal to stamp. This would make the dies go bad faster especially dies with defects in the steel. It is not a collectable error to most knowledgeable collectors and can be very common on many types of coins.

Edited March 19 by Mike Meenderink

[ronday]

On 3/19/2024 at 12:39 AM, Mike Meenderink said:

Die subsidence (sunken die)  The surface of a die will some­times sink in, leaving a recess into which coin metal rises. This form of die deformation is presumably the result of abnormally soft die steel. The zone of subsidence will sometimes show cracking along its margin. In the absence of such cracks, the edge will be softly defined. In my opinion this is what has happened to your coin. This scenario is more common on the steel cents since steel dies were used to mint these steel coins and its a pretty hard metal to stamp. This would make the dies go bad faster especially dies with defects in the steel. It is not a collectable error to most knowledgeable collectors and can be very common on many types of coins.

I am replying to you, but want to thank everyone else as well. I't been sorting through boxes of coins that I wasn't sure of what to do with for the last 20 years. Finally doing housekeeping and giving whatever wouldn't grade to my daughter - This came from a friend (formerly wigglebutts here at NGC) and he had marked it D/D - he had gifted me several nice coins including a 1967 MS67RD penny and half a dozen Gem BU 1955 blazers with cuds in the gap of the last 5 among others nice pennies. Sending some in for grading but this will go to my daughter ;0)

[Sandon]

On 3/19/2024 at 7:37 AM, ronday said:

Sending some in for grading

   I assume that by this you mean that you intend to submit these coins to a third-party grading service such as NGC. Unless you have adequate knowledge of and experience with grading yourself to determine that the coins you wish to submit are likely to achieve grades that would give them market values of at least several hundred dollars apiece, it makes no sense to submit them. It is extremely unlikely that you have a 1955 or 1967 Lincoln cent (with or without "cuds") that would be worth the grading (minimum $23 per coin), error attribution ($18 per coin), processing ($10 per order) and return shipping (minimum $28 per order) fees, plus your cost of shipping the coins to NGC.