Punkie17 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 I found this penny in a roll and it looks beat up but it's not. It looks like it was struck with a larger coin and triple striked it over Lincolns portrait. But while it looks to be triple strikes with a different coin it also seemed to rotate. Both sides have been strikes and I'm not sure if the back is a different coin striking it as it looks to have like the flower leaves from a dime. The obverse doesn't look to busy (noticeable to some degree), until you zoom in and then it's like OH my God, what am I looking at. It gets confusing as I figured out it's triple strikes. I think I see what looks to be feathers and eagle feet, but then I also see like one arrow in a holder with lines in it. It's a penny but the pictures show a real pretty gold color over it that the naked eye doesn't see and it also looks to be layered as in some places up close you can see numbers/letters inside the ridge. What I thought to be like a ribbon above the date turns out to be part of the double striking. It's really intriguing when zoomed in very close and turning the picture to decipher what you think you see. Everything is pretty much readable zoomed in and at times I think I see mirrored images as to all of this together makes it confusing for me. Is there a way to get the penny through the computers layered so that you can see the different strikes separately to determine what coin it was struck with? I see eagle feet (maybe) sitting on the top of his shoulder and a branch with a few leaves below the liberty. I think I also see maybe the eagle head over top of Lincolns head. It's hard to decipher for me as I am new to this but did colle t coins when I was younger. I also am wanting to know if I submit it for grading/errors are the people trustworthy to send it back to me cuz I feel like it is a very rare coin with all that's going on with it. It is a little sunk in the middle of the coin I am thinking by the machine and is noticeable on the back of the coin.Lincoln looks to be sunk in the center but he is not distorted at all. I will send a raw picture so I can get thoughts about it. I also thought if I made it black and white I wouldn't be so distracted by everything I see in it but I couldn't get it to show hardly any of the details. Might just be that the photo editor sucks. I read that they grade and you have to pay a percentage of what the coin is worth. Am I understanding that right cuz if it's rare then I don't have that kind of money to pay a percentage. Any advice with any of my questions will be welcomed. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenstang Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Welcome to the Chat Board What you have is just a damaged and corroded cent worth 1 cent. This is known as a road kill coin. Suggest you read and study what a true error is. Sandon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandon Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Welcome to the NGC chat board. I agree that this copper plated zinc Lincoln cent, which I think is actually a 1988-D, is severely damaged and corroded and does not exhibit any mint error. I have seen many such damaged coins. For examples of coins with multiple strikes, see https://www.error-ref.com/?s=multiple+strike and the portion of Learn Grading: What Is a Mint Error? — Part 2 | NGC (ngccoin.com) dealing with "Double-, Triple- and Multi-Struck Coins". For examples of previously struck coins that were overstruck with dies of coins of different denominations or designs or from different years, see the examples shown at https://www.error-ref.com/?s=double+denomination. Submitting this coin to a grading service would be a waste of money. If you are a new collector, we can advise you as to reliable print and online resources from which you can learn how to more accurately identify and evaluate coins. All you need do is to ask. Punkie17 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l.cutler Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Excellent advice given by Greenstang and Sandon. If you want to look for errors, first study and learn what errors are. If you just start looking for coins that are "different" you are in for a long difficult journey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWB Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Please stop watching (or believing) U-tube videos. You can learn more from your family cat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Neophyte Numismatist Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Welcome. As others have said, it is not a rare coin... but a damaged ordinary cent. You probably should abandon the error hunt until you know what you are looking at. Look for quality coins (the nicest you can find), and learn the minting process. Then you can get into errors when your acumen is sharp and eyes know what to look for. If you keep down your path, you will (unfortunately) find a lot of damaged coins that are not worth a cardboard 2x2 much less grading costs. Hopefully, a quick change in course and some study can change your outcomes from frustration to fun! Note: Just a fair warning. If you keep posting damaged coins and asking if they are errors, you will lose the people on the boards. It's not because people don't want to help, but because continuing to post these without studying the minting process is like trying to solve a Rubik's Cube with your eyes closed. Once you study and understand the minting process, you will be able to ask your questions in a more thoughtful way. There is a big difference in asking: Is this a double die? And Do you think this is a double die? I think I see split serifs on XXXX, and it appears to be an XXX example on Variety Vista. The second question shows you studied and are trying.... the first example is just a lazy lob with no effort at all. STILL - I think starting with errors is a big mistake that will lead you down a path of frustration. Learn about the coins in a series, the varieties, how to grade them and the process used to mint them... and your future self will be much better off. Good Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleRJO Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 On 1/8/2024 at 11:01 AM, RWB said: Please stop watching (or believing) U-tube videos. You can learn more from your family cat. That's a pretty strong statement coming from someone who doesn't like cats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWB Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 On 1/8/2024 at 12:20 PM, EagleRJO said: That's a pretty strong statement coming from someone who doesn't like cats! Cats are OK as indoor pets for responsible owners. Otherwise they are invasive species and destructive vermin. However, some of the videos I've come across suggest the validity of my earlier comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
