fun show how to get my sms 1964’ graded without mailing 1 1

[sidy weikert]

i have a 1964’ sms set and a 75 no mint mark dime 

ngc just said they won’t grade it at fun show on jan 4th  i don’t want to mail it so how do i get it graded without mailing 

any help is appreciated 

i’ll have to add pics of the other coins quarter dime nickel penny in comments 

not enough file room but i added half dollar to start 

[sidy weikert]

[sidy weikert]

[sidy weikert]

[Sandon]

   Welcome to the NGC chat board. Before I attempt to answer your question, there are several issues that I must address.

  1. The "Coin Marketplace" forum is for offers to sell or buy specific coins, not for questions about coins or how to submit them to NGC. For proper attention, such questions should be posted on the "Newbie Coin Collecting Questions" forum or in the case of questions about submissions, on the "Ask NGC/NCS" forum. (I will ask the Administrator to move this topic to the "Newbie" forum.)

 2. The coins whose photos you posted are clearly not examples of the very rare and controversial 1964 "SMS" coins, which have a "smooth satin-like appearance" rather than a mirrorlike surface as on the coins shown. See photos and discussion at https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1964-50c-sms/6844 and Kennedy Half Dollars (1964-Date) | VarietyPlus® | NGC (ngccoin.com) (1964 50C SP). Your coins appear to be from a 1964 proof set, of which over 3.9 million were sold and are normally worth about $30 as a set. Unfortunately, someone appears to have rubbed these coins with something that left numerous hairline scratches on their surfaces. This is known as "abrasive cleaning" and has destroyed much of their collector value. 

 3.  You claim to have a "1975 no mint mark dime" which you apparently believe to be rare. Actually, the Philadelphia mint issued over 585 million dimes dated 1975, which had no mint marks, as that mint did not place mint marks on dies for dimes or most other coins until 1980.  If you found this coin in circulation, it is undoubtedly one of these common pieces, which are generally worth face value.  The rare piece is a 1975 no S proof dime, which has a mirrorlike surface and was issued in proof sets sealed in hard plastic holders. Only two are known to exist.  See https://www.pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1975-10c-no-s/5254. 

   As you are going to the FUN show, I recommend that you show these coins to some of the better-known dealers there before attempting to submit them to NGC or any other grading service.  I assume that they will confirm what I have said here. If you still want to submit them and have a paid NGC membership, NGC will be accepting regular submissions at the show and will transport them to their facility in Sarasota for authentication and grading and return them to you via Federal Express. Be sure to read the various topics under the "Submit" tab on the NGC home page.  One difficulty I see is that if you want these coins insured at what genuine pieces of these extremely rare issues would be worth, you will have to submit them at a very high "tier" that would require a high grading fee. Make sure that you likely have what you think you have before you submit!

Edited December 28, 2023 by Sandon

[CIII]

I second that opinion on the cleaning.

[Coinbuf]

As already mentioned these are just harshly cleaned normal coins, not SMS and not worth the cost to submit.

[Just Bob]

That is sad. Someone ruined a proof set.

[VKurtB]

Oh. My. Freaking. Gawd. STOP IT!!! RIGHT NOW!!! None of these are what you apparently think they are. No SMS coins! No special 1975 dime! You are going to embarrass yourself. I ALREADY feel embarrassed FOR YOU! You simply MUST reverse course and stop this madness. ALL those 1964 coins are impaired proof coins and are essentially WITHOUT collector value.

BTW, the extent to which you bite your fingernails speaks to an anxiety disorder you need to have treated.

Edited January 2 by VKurtB

[VKurtB]

On 12/27/2023 at 5:44 PM, sidy weikert said:

i have a 1964’ sms set and a 75 no mint mark dime 

No. You. Do. Not.  STOP!

I worked at Registration at the IMEX Nashville show, at which several (more than 5) people insisted that they should be allowed on the show floor without paying the entry fee, in order to pick up their grading orders at the "other" grading firm. One gentleman in particular remains vivid in my memory. His main thing was NOT paying $10 to get in, but he paid well over $2000 to get coins graded (a small box) and NOT A SINGLE ONE was worth more than $20. Most were worth far less. Object lesson: BEGINNERS SHOULD NEVER HAVE COINS GRADED. They are not ready and they WILL lose massive amounts of money. But at least I slipped him MY badge so he wouldn't need to pay that $10.  WAIT FOR LONGER THAN YOU CAN STAND TO, until you are absolutely going to EXPLODE, and then wait longer, all the while studying and reading and looking at coins, before you have your first coin graded.

Edited January 2 by VKurtB