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[Steeler-guy]

I just received 6 of my coins returned with four 69’s one 68 and one 70. REALLY??? These were straight from US Mint and they all received the first strike.  I’m dumbfounded. The true view shows scratches on the 68 that were not there prior to being mailed. I checked all 6 for obvious marks but found nothing to hold any coins back. What to do with that scratched 68. I didn’t do it.

Has anyone had any good experiences in resubmitting coins. It seems like a waste of money. Do they really re grade?   

ANY OBSERVATION GREATLY APPRECIATED 

 

 

Edited December 18, 2023 by Steeler-guy

[Fenntucky Mike]

On 12/18/2023 at 2:56 AM, Steeler-guy said:

I just received 6 of my coins returned with four 69’s one 68 and one 70. REALLY??? These were straight from US Mint and they all received the first strike.  I’m dumbfounded. The true view shows scratches on the 68 that were not there prior to being mailed. I checked all 6 for obvious marks but found nothing to hold any coins back. What to do with that scratched 68. I didn’t do it.

Has anyone had any good experiences in resubmitting coins. It seems like a waste of money. Do they really re grade?   

ANY OBSERVATION GREATLY APPRECIATED 

Which coins did you submit?

It'd most likely be a waste of money to resubmit them.

Edited December 18, 2023 by Fenntucky Mike

[Coinbuf]

If the coin has visible marks I would agree with @Fenntucky Mike that it would be a waste of money to resubmit.   I don't collect or submit modern coins so I have no specific observations to report, but I can say that I have read complaints on multiple forums of issues similar to yours with the op's claiming that the issue happened while at a TPG.   And I do not say this to be mean but if you did not take good clear large photos of the coins prior to submitting it's a case of he said she said.

[Steeler-guy]

On 12/18/2023 at 5:52 AM, Fenntucky Mike said:

Which coins did you submit?

It'd most likely be a waste of money to resubmit them.

The Morgan peace rev of set

[Steeler-guy]

Pics a good idea. Didn’t think it was necessary. Thanks for ideas. 

[Fenntucky Mike]

On 12/18/2023 at 6:14 PM, Steeler-guy said:

The Morgan peace rev of set

I suspected it was this set, I've read a lot of complaints about the quality of these coins and am not surprised by your results. Definitely not worth resubmitting imo.

[Steeler-guy]

I wasn’t aware of that. Thank you 

[Henri Charriere]

On 12/18/2023 at 6:01 PM, Coinbuf said:

If the coin has visible marks I would agree with @Fenntucky Mike that it would be a waste of money to resubmit.   I don't collect or submit modern coins so I have no specific observations to report, but I can say that I have read complaints on multiple forums of issues similar to yours with the op's claiming that the issue happened while at a TPG.   And I do not say this to be mean but if you did not take good clear large photos of the coins prior to submitting it's a case of he said she said.

Or in the case of former comedian, Bill Cosby, the New York Daily News, famously ran a Banner Headline on its Front Page, that read:

"He said, she said, she said, she said..." 49 consecutive times filling every space on the page.

Moving right along, I learned a great deal about the graders art at PCGS.  So much, in fact that I decided to skip buying RAW entirely and going straight to encapsulations and upgrading with yet newer encapsulations.

Though you didn't mention it -- and being a dated thread this matter is water under the bridge -- I can assure you the fact that a coin was ejected from a chute into a gloved hand does not insure a flawless strike of perfection. In point of fact, there is a gentleman who has been collecting for over a half-century who claims he has never seen an MS-70 anything, that exhibited no flaws whatsoever. 

My approach is simple.  When you have a toothache, you go see a dentist.  When you break your arm, you go see a doctor. That's what you pay these people for. Same thing with coins.  You don't take them to a shoemaker. You send them to a TPGS for an evaluation. That's what they get paid to do.  Don't agree with the opinion? Go to another TPGS.  Have I ever been upset (or gobsmacked) by a submission?  Of course.  But rather than rant and rave about it, I clear my desk and study the coin in question at length. The advantage I do not enjoy over a TPGS is I have not been exposed to untold numbers of similarly graded coins, above and below the grade assigned me. On those highest possible grades, I would urge tolerance -- and study.  🐓 

[ThePhiladelphiaPenny]

On 7/28/2024 at 6:17 PM, Henri Charriere said:

My approach is simple.  When you have a toothache, you go see a dentist.  When you break your arm, you go see a doctor. That's what you pay these people for. Same thing with coins.  You don't take them to a shoemaker. You send them to a TPGS for an evaluation. That's what they get paid to do.  Don't agree with the opinion? Go to another TPGS.  Have I ever been upset (or gobsmacked) by a submission?  Of course.  But rather than rant and rave about it, I clear my desk and study the coin in question at length. The advantage I do not enjoy over a TPGS is I have not been exposed to untold numbers of similarly graded coins, above and below the grade assigned me. On those highest possible grades, I would urge tolerance -- and study.  🐓 

That was some good advice actually....