dav51 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) Would you guys get this coin regraded? To me it seems like it really should be a cam. Any thoughts? Edited October 9, 2023 by dav51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fenntucky Mike Posted October 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2023 On 10/9/2023 at 12:26 PM, dav51 said: Would you guys get this coin regraded? To me it seems like it really should be a cam. Any thoughts? Looks like it falls short to me, I wouldn't send it back in. What's the price difference between PF, PFCA, PFUC in this grade? zadok, Coinbuf, dav51 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sandon Posted October 9, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 9, 2023 Welcome to the NGC chat board. When NGC gives a "star" grade to a coin submitted in the hope of receiving a "cameo" or similar designation, it usually means that the coin qualified for the designation on one side but not the other. The reverse of this proof half sovereign appears to have less contrast between the fields and devices than the obverse, resulting in the "star" instead of "cameo" designation. I wouldn't spend more money hoping that the graders will be less strict this time around. World Colonial, dav51, R__Rash and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Meenderink Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 The obverse is decent cameo but the reverse is obviously un blessed. Its graded correctly. dav51 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dav51 Posted October 9, 2023 Author Share Posted October 9, 2023 On 10/9/2023 at 4:58 PM, Mike Meenderink said: The obverse is decent cameo but the reverse is obviously un blessed. Its graded correctly. Appreciate the responses. I am still learnning! Sitting directly next to a cam in the next grade up, I truly cannot see a difference in the degree of reflectivity on the reverse. Is it really that obvious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenntucky Mike Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) On 10/9/2023 at 5:06 PM, dav51 said: Compared to a cam of the same year and similar grade, I really do not see a difference. Can I ask why it’s obvious? The coin on the left, "B" coin I think, appears to have less contrast, not sure if it's the same coin as in the OP, particularly in the body of the horse my guess is that's why it didn't grade cam. The obv doesn't seem full cameo to me either, particularly at the nape, cheek, and bridge on the effigy, but we are just going off of images, it might look different in hand. You could call NGC and see if there are any grader's notes on this coin. Edited October 9, 2023 by Fenntucky Mike Clarification dav51 and R__Rash 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dav51 Posted October 9, 2023 Author Share Posted October 9, 2023 On 10/9/2023 at 5:16 PM, Fenntucky Mike said: The coin on the left, "B" coin I think, appears to have more contrast, not sure if it's the same coin as in the OP, particularly in the body of the horse my guess is that's why it didn't grade cam. The obv doesn't seem full cameo to me either, particularly at the nape, cheek, and bridge on the effigy, but we are just going off of images, it might look different in hand. You could call NGC and see if there are any grader's notes on this coin. Thanks so much for the explanation. Coin B is original coin in the post, graded at a 63*, coin A is a 64+cam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Meenderink Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) Its mostly about the reverse horse /rider there's just not enough frost on the little guy on coin B. The cape on the rider is cam but the rest is very reflective on B. Edited October 9, 2023 by Mike Meenderink dav51 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henri Charriere Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) To answer your topic question in deference to the universally acclaimed "Robert's Rules of Order" and "Uniform Rules of Citation" as developed by the Great Zadok which is universally acclaimed and accepted, notably for its classic, simple brevity, the answer, without further elaboration, is "No." Edited October 10, 2023 by Henri Charriere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
