stefqwe Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Hi, I've got this one right here and I don't if it's authentic or not. The condition makes me a bit suspicious. I'm a newbie so I need help please!! Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenstang Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Welcome to the forum. Not an expert on ancients but that looks like a cast coin to me. See what others have to say. EagleRJO and stefqwe 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefqwe Posted July 6 Author Share Posted July 6 On 7/6/2023 at 4:28 PM, Greenstang said: Welcome to the forum. Not an expert on ancients but that looks like a cast coin to me. See what others have to say. Thank you! Unfortunately it is fake... The paint came off when added a little vinegar and now I have left a shiny coin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Bob Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Looks like it was supposed to resemble a Byzantine solidus or similar, but it was probably something sold at one of the tourist traps in Turkey. stefqwe and AdamWL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefqwe Posted July 6 Author Share Posted July 6 On 7/6/2023 at 4:43 PM, Just Bob said: Looks like it was supposed to resemble a Byzantine solidus or similar, but it was probably something sold at one of the tourist traps in Turkey. Yes.. Thank you for the help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Neophyte Numismatist Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 On 7/6/2023 at 9:40 AM, stefqwe said: Thank you! Unfortunately it is fake... The paint came off when added a little vinegar and now I have left a shiny coin... This time, no harm no foul. But, I would advise you to be careful when cleaning coins. You will ruin a lot of coins by using the conservation methods above. stefqwe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKK Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Just because someone painted it doesn't make it a counterfeit; paint isn't that common on coins. Replating is more common. I'd like to see a photo of the edge plus weight and diameter. My own guess is that it was cast as a necklace and the little loop broke off, but the edge is the next place for us to look. stefqwe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefqwe Posted July 6 Author Share Posted July 6 On 7/6/2023 at 5:42 PM, JKK said: Just because someone painted it doesn't make it a counterfeit; paint isn't that common on coins. Replating is more common. I'd like to see a photo of the edge plus weight and diameter. My own guess is that it was cast as a necklace and the little loop broke off, but the edge is the next place for us to look. 3.82g and 18.4mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKK Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 I did a little looking, enough to satisfy myself that what it's supposed to be is a half follis (aka 20 nummi), a common bronze coin of the early Byz era. I would start looking on Wildwinds, choosing to view thumbnails, and use the reverse as your primary cue. You can skip forward past Justin II, unless you want to make sure I didn't miss something (quite possible). I don't see any seams along the edge that you showed me, but it does look a little too disclike to make me very comfortable. In any case, first find what it's supposed to be, then use that info to look up known authentic examples. stefqwe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefqwe Posted July 6 Author Share Posted July 6 On 7/7/2023 at 12:50 AM, JKK said: I did a little looking, enough to satisfy myself that what it's supposed to be is a half follis (aka 20 nummi), a common bronze coin of the early Byz era. I would start looking on Wildwinds, choosing to view thumbnails, and use the reverse as your primary cue. You can skip forward past Justin II, unless you want to make sure I didn't miss something (quite possible). I don't see any seams along the edge that you showed me, but it does look a little too disclike to make me very comfortable. In any case, first find what it's supposed to be, then use that info to look up known authentic examples. Thank you!!! I will start looking, but just by looking at it, do you think it has a chance to be authentic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKK Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 On 7/6/2023 at 3:05 PM, stefqwe said: Thank you!!! I will start looking, but just by looking at it, do you think it has a chance to be authentic? Perhaps; can't really say. Photos are very deceptive that way, and the harsh cleaning certainly didn't help matters (though I understand it, if it was coated in f-bombing paint). The way to arriving at a decision is to do what I said, find out what it purports to be, then compare it to examples of the real deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
