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VKurtB

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On 6/10/2023 at 12:57 PM, James Derrow said:

Are there any other communities and resources for those woe want more information on the Eagles of all varieties ?

 

 

What sort of information?

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VKurtB

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On 6/10/2023 at 2:25 PM, James Derrow said:

@VKurtB Really looking for a community focusing on Eagles.

  • buying
  • selling
  • attribute desirability
  • Labeling and Reholdering 
  • Cross Platforming ( converting PCGS to NGC)

and Im sure 50 other ideas around eagles

 

I feel I need to provide fair warning. There is a school of thought out there, from which I am an Honors Graduate, that concentrating on collecting Eagles borders on the bizarre. They are in nearly infinite supply in gaudy high grades, have no real rarity whatsoever, and are perhaps the SUREST way to hemorrhage red ink in losing money in a branch of numismatics. Everyone CHARGES the collector for every nuance, but they instantly become “I only pay 5% off of melt for them” when the collector desires to sell.

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Reno Raines

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When it comes to ASE's I would recommend collecting only the proof and burnished versions of ASE's that have been already graded NGC MS70 and PF70 as they each have lower mintages compared to the regular version of ASE's for each year. To complete a set of ASE regular version you'll need 1986 - present. In order to do a complete set of proofs you'll also need 1986 - present and lastly to do a complete set of the burnished version you'll need 2006 - present. Due to the burnished ASE's being relatively new and having the lowest amount minted each year they are very slowly gaining some traction in the ASE collector community.

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GoldFinger1969

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On 6/10/2023 at 3:25 PM, James Derrow said:

@VKurtB Really looking for a community focusing on Eagles. buying  selling attribute desirability  Labeling and Reholdering  C ross Platforming ( converting PCGS to NGC) and Im sure 50 other ideas around eagles

To each his own, but unlike classic coins, these are available in HUGE SUPPLY and also are pretty much only 1 ounce of bullion.  I have a few Proofs and specials myself, but just as a novelty item.

Any interest in Classic Eagles or even Double Eagles ?  xD

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On 6/19/2023 at 6:27 AM, Fenntucky Mike said:

I wonder what collectors of palladium, APE's, think of the current market and if it will rebound? 

Don't follow it too closely, but with EV's 7% of U.S. car sales YTD I have to think that the catalytic converter issue is going to be a major headwind for the white metals going forward.

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On 6/19/2023 at 7:51 AM, GoldFinger1969 said:

Don't follow it too closely, but with EV's 7% of U.S. car sales YTD I have to think that the catalytic converter issue is going to be a major headwind for the white metals going forward.

I just bought two brand new gasoline burners, and I’m 68. I hope to NEVER be forced to go EV. I drove two. Absolutely useless. I need 750 daily miles range or it’s useless. 

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Reno Raines

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Just to prove my point that burnished ASE's having lower mintages each year compared to their regular yearly counterparts (VKurtB's point about regular ASE's being very common and easy to find in NGC MS70 grade) here are the mintages of burnished ASE's from each year from 2006 - 2019 and their regular issue counterparts. I only did the mintages from those years since I haven't added any more burnished ASE's to my collection since then.

2006 W -  regular 10,676,522 burnished 466,573

2007 W - regular 9,028,036 burnished 621,333

2008 W - regular 20,583,000 burnished 533,757

2008 W (Reverse of 2007) - 533,757

2009 W - regular 30,459,000 burnished 0

2010 W - regular 34,764,500 burnished 0 

2011 W - regular 40,020,000 burnished 409,766

2011 S -  burnished 99,882

2012 W - regular 33,742,500 burnished 226,120

2013 W - regular 42,675,000 burnished 221,981

2014 W - 44,006,000 burnished 253,169

2015 W - regular 47,000,000 burnished 200,016

2016 W - regular 37,701,5000 burnished 216,422

2017 W - regular 18,065,500 burnished 176,739

2018 W - regular 15,700,000 burnished 138,947

2019 W - regular 14,863,500 burnished 138,140

On 6/10/2023 at 3:25 PM, James Derrow said:

@VKurtB

I didn't skip the mintages from 2009 and 2010 since burnished ASE's simply weren't minted in those years. At the end of the day just collect coins you like as everybody has a different collecting style and taste.

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VKurtB

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On 6/20/2023 at 12:40 AM, Tony Follis said:

Just to prove my point that burnished ASE's having lower mintages each year compared to their regular yearly counterparts (VKurtB's point about regular ASE's being very common and easy to find in NGC MS70 grade) here are the mintages of burnished ASE's from each year from 2006 - 2019 and their regular issue counterparts. I only did the mintages from those years since I haven't added any more burnished ASE's to my collection since then.

2006 W -  regular 10,676,522 burnished 466,573

2007 W - regular 9,028,036 burnished 621,333

2008 W - regular 20,583,000 burnished 533,757

2008 W (Reverse of 2007) - 533,757

2009 W - regular 30,459,000 burnished 0

2010 W - regular 34,764,500 burnished 0 

2011 W - regular 40,020,000 burnished 409,766

2011 S -  burnished 99,882

2012 W - regular 33,742,500 burnished 226,120

2013 W - regular 42,675,000 burnished 221,981

2014 W - 44,006,000 burnished 253,169

2015 W - regular 47,000,000 burnished 200,016

2016 W - regular 37,701,5000 burnished 216,422

2017 W - regular 18,065,500 burnished 176,739

2018 W - regular 15,700,000 burnished 138,947

2019 W - regular 14,863,500 burnished 138,140

I didn't skip the mintages from 2009 and 2010 since burnished ASE's simply weren't minted in those years. At the end of the day just collect coins you like as everybody has a different collecting style and taste.

I get one regular strike per year for my generic ASE Dansco album. I also buy one burnished one. That’s IT. I used to buy proofs, and special combo sets. No more. I got one of each type in the design crossover year for the Dansco. I’ve never had one graded, never BOUGHT one graded, and I never will do that. I have a slabbed one that was an ANA premium item for a multiple year renewal or something. Now I’m a Life Member, ANA National Volunteer, and a Donor/Patron. (Nothing to do with tequila.)

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GoldFinger1969

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On 6/22/2023 at 12:18 AM, Tony Follis said:

I only collect the burnished ASE's in NGC MS70 grade and once I get that "Caught up" I'll start a gold eagle collection. Bottom line I only collect gold and silver coins.

Only moderns ?  No pre-1933 gold or silver ?

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GoldFinger1969

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On 6/22/2023 at 2:16 AM, Tony Follis said:

Not yet but probably soon as I'm tip toeing back to coin collecting.

Great...some excellent veterans on those coins plus I'm a learning intermediate guy. xD

Already have some great threads on DEs and Eagles, plus Liberty Head DEs, gold bullion, etc.  

See you there......(thumbsu

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