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[Zebo]

 I’ve been adding books to my library lately. For those with patience, this may be of interest. I’ve pre-ordered a copy of the below which is not due to be shipped until June 14, 2023. Quite a wait, I know. You can find the first edition that goes up to 1968 easy enough, but for the price of $41 and free shipping, the pre-order is hard to beat. The reference book as you can see, now goes up to 1976, I pre-ordered through Barnes and Noble, not Amazon - I dislike Amazon with a passion.

Enjoy!

 

[World Colonial]

It's a topic of interest to me, but I don't buy books on coins I don't collect.  I'd rather spend the money on coins for my primary collecting interest.

[Just Bob]

That looks like a good addition to your library. 

Question: did the British strike patterns for gold coins in off-metals they way the US mint did/does?

[Oldhoopster]

You can never have too many reference books, I always say

Except when you move.  I've lugged my reference library in multiple boxes through a couple moves.  But it's worth it

[Zebo]

On 8/26/2022 at 9:57 AM, Just Bob said:

That looks like a good addition to your library. 

Question: did the British strike patterns for gold coins in off-metals they way the US mint did/does?

They did.

[RWB]

A bargain!

[VKurtB]

On 8/26/2022 at 10:11 AM, Oldhoopster said:

You can never have too many reference books, I always say

Except when you move.  I've lugged my reference library in multiple boxes through a couple moves.  But it's worth it

Amen, brother! 4 moves since 2017. 

[Zebo]

On 8/26/2022 at 7:10 PM, RWB said:

A bargain!

Not really a bargain, but a decent price with it selling for $60 to $80 overseas plus shipping. Can’t wait to see what Spink lists it for.

[Henri Charriere]

Books? Books, books, books... Oh, BOOKS!  I remember those!  I had quite a few once. In fact  I had worked at bookstores. No E-books for me. I like the real thing their texture, scent and use of different fonts.  Many years ago, my mother, hearing I was going to hear Dr. Spock speak, gave me a book to have him sign. Something about baby care. He took the book and commented it looked barely read. I was 17. I told him this was my mother's third copy. The others, all paperbacks were dog-eared and the bindings had fallen apart. He smiled, asked me her name and signed it with a date, personal message and a great flourish. What would the owner of an E-book do? No comparison.

[lindsayhardnette197]

so is that a worthy book or not? I really love reading, especially on that topic, but I heard that most of this kind of books are not that good. So I am looking for your feedback guys! By the way, recently I have read a book about a dream house, and it was really interesting. It was so cool that I have even decided to write an essay about it, and have inspired from https://studyhippo.com/my-dream-house-3925/ about essay writing. So now I am looking for some more nice books!

Edited October 3, 2022 by lindsayhardnette197

[Henri Charriere]

On 9/23/2022 at 7:51 AM, lindsayhardnette197 said:

so is that a worthy book or not? 

I cannot speak on it today. It was a top-selling book at the time. But then the author took a hard line stance against the Vietnam War.  And, of course, he is long deceased, as is my mother.  I never read the book and I do not know how it is faring in the world of book publishing, or whether it is still in print.

[Henri Charriere]

In a recent post, a venerable long-time member did the unthinkable, and I responded in kind.  He casually mentioned the title of a book I never even knew existed: French Red Book.  I acknowledged the post, and moved on.  Days later, unsure if it was a joke of some kind, I looked it up and was shocked to find, it existed! Even more shocking, I ordered a copy!  And I intend to read it.  [Yes, you may quote me for attribution!]

To those members who had long ago concluded I am not a numismatist, collector or even a hoarder--because I do not own a single coin-related book, you may wish to reconfigure your thinking. A suggestion was made, I investigated the matter, and with a few well-placed clicks, am on my way to becoming an arguably informed member in my tiny niche of the numismatic universe.

I have collected French 20-franc gold roosters for years, amassed a top collection one other  member here, not given to praise too often, allowed was a "significant achievement," and therefore am all but constrained to thank your friend and mine--he who monitors the ebb and flow of the Crimson Tide--as well as our hosts, for unwittingly providing the medium, i.e. the Chat Board, by which I received this life-altering message. Yes, a book!  What's wrong with that? [Everyone is acutely aware I embroider, embellish and am given to exaggeration!]  😉  🐓 

[Oldhoopster]

On 9/23/2022 at 10:43 AM, Quintus Arrius said:

In a recent post, a venerable long-time member did the unthinkable, and I responded in kind.  He casually mentioned the title of a book I never even knew existed: French Red Book.  I acknowledged the post, and moved on.  Days later, unsure if it was a joke of some kind, I looked it up and was shocked to find, it existed! Even more shocking, I ordered a copy!  And I intend to read it.  [Yes, you may quote me for attribution!]

To those members who had long ago concluded I am not a numismatist, collector or even a hoarder--because I do not own a single coin-related book, you may wish to reconfigure your thinking. A suggestion was made, I investigated the matter, and with a few well-placed clicks, am on my way to becoming an arguably informed member in my tiny niche of the numismatic universe.

I have collected French 20-franc gold roosters for years, amassed a top collection one other  member here, not given to praise too often, allowed was a "significant achievement," and therefore am all but constrained to thank your friend and mine--he who monitors the ebb and flow of the Crimson Tide--as well as our hosts, for unwittingly providing the medium, i.e. the Chat Board, by which I received this life-altering message. Yes, a book!  What's wrong with that? [Everyone is acutely aware I embroider, embellish and am given to exaggeration!]  😉  🐓 

If anyone is interested, I believe these are the books QA is referencing. I have both volumes and find  the useful.  QA, please make the correction if you didn't get Gadoury

[VKurtB]

Known colloquially as Le Rouge. I had that one pictured above, but it got “liberated” during a past move. I just ordered the one that was new this past January, right after I informed QA of it. I get a U.K. Spink book every few years, and I’ll get Le Rouge about every six years. When I find a Swiss reference, I’ll buy that. I get the U.S. one about every three years or when a special edition comes out. 

[Henri Charriere]

@Oldhoopster et @VKurtB...

Yes, that's the one (latest edition) which may not matter as the series ended in 1914, though re-strikes continued to be minted, with a slight change of composition, in 1921 as well as the 1950's and 1960's.  I have a number of coins apparently encapsulated by the overseas office of PCGS, which bear the formal classification, Gad-1064 or -1064a. The book (as pictured above) will not only be my first Red Book since the 1960's, but my first French one.  I vaguely occur acquiring the U.S. edition featuring the coinage and bars recovered from the S.S. Central America, but no longer recall what happened to it. [My bother (deceased) and I were evicted from our childhood home--10 years to this very day-- when it was discovered by the latest management that our names, as well as my mother's (deceased) were never included on any lease renewals.]  In any event, I am certain I will find information in the book that will answer most, if not all, of my questions regarding the Rooster line, the last of a long line of 20-franc issues. One final observation... the design of the coin includes an intricate ornamental beaded chain in lieu of denticles on the rim and an edge with raised letters reading, in French "God Protect France" on the "original series" as well as the motto, "Liberty Equality Fraternity" interspersed with raised ornamental "bollards" in lieu of traditional reeding, on the series popularly known here as the "re-strikes."

Edited September 25, 2022 by Quintus Arrius
Additional clarification.

[karinaniff22]

On 9/23/2022 at 5:43 PM, Quintus Arrius said:

In a recent post, a venerable long-time member did the unthinkable, and I responded in kind.  He casually mentioned the title of a book I never even knew existed: French Red Book.  I acknowledged the post, and moved on.  Days later, unsure if it was a joke of some kind, I looked it up and was shocked to find, it existed! Even more shocking, I ordered a copy!  And I intend to read it.  [Yes, you may quote me for attribution!]

To those members who had long ago concluded I am not a numismatist, collector or even a hoarder--because I do not own a single coin-related book, you may wish to reconfigure your thinking. A suggestion was made, I investigated the matter, and with a few well-placed clicks, am on my way to becoming an arguably informed member in my tiny niche of the numismatic universe.

I have collected French 20-franc gold roosters for years, amassed a top collection one other  member here, not given to praise too often, allowed was a "significant achievement," and therefore am all but constrained to thank your friend and mine--he who monitors the ebb and flow of the Crimson Tide--as well as our hosts, for unwittingly providing the medium, i.e. the Chat Board, by which I received this life-altering message. Yes, a book!  What's wrong with that? [Everyone is acutely aware I embroider, embellish and am given to exaggeration!]  😉  🐓 
I always buy only those books that are on sale. I wait until the price drops and then I take it. Just recently I was reading about Greek mythology and there was the word euthanasia, I used https://studymoose.com/free-essays/euthanasia in order to understand what it means. I like to learn something new for myself. To twist in books all the strength and history of ours.

In life, this does not happen, anything can happen.

Edited September 26, 2022 by karinaniff22

[Henri Charriere]

On 9/25/2022 at 7:35 AM, karinaniff22 said:

In life, this does not happen, anything can happen.

I have taken delivery of the French Red Book, entitled MONNAIES FRANCAISES, 1789 -2021, Editions, Victory Gadoury.  All credit is due @VKurtB for bringing its very existence to my attention.  

[VKurtB]

On 9/25/2022 at 9:29 PM, Quintus Arrius said:

I have taken delivery of the French Red Book, entitled MONNAIES FRANCAISES, 1789 -2021, Editions, Victory Gadoury.  All credit is due @VKurtB for bringing its very existence to my attention.  

I had the 1789-2015 edition but lost it somewhere between Harrisburg and Arab. My 1789-2021, by cheapest shipping method available, should be here any day now. 

[Conder101]

On 9/23/2022 at 7:51 AM, lindsayhardnette197 said:

so is that a worthy book or not?

Dr Spock wrote at least 11 books on babies and child care.  I know when I was young his books were considered to be the last word on child rearing.  At least some of his books are still in print.  His books on The first two years, and The school years were reprinted in 2002, his Pregnancy Guide in 2007, and the tenth edition of Dr Spock's Baby and Child Care was published in 2019. 21 years after his death.

[Frank]

On 8/26/2022 at 11:11 AM, Oldhoopster said:

You can never have too many reference books, I always say

Except when you move.  I've lugged my reference library in multiple boxes through a couple moves.  But it's worth it

Yup, the book is more valuable than the coin -- in many instances

 

But, I will be selling off a ton of books, I have [probably] a couple of thousand.

My wife wants to downsize.

I'll probably keep several hundred of my books.  But no more.

Edited September 28, 2022 by Frank
added comment to make post cogent.

[Henri Charriere]

The owner (now deceased) of one of America's largest used book stores, the Strand, with 18 shelf miles of books, had a simple rule he adhered to at home with his personal collection which he estimated to be 2,000 books.  If he brought home a book--he was the principal buyer in the store so he had first dibs--another had to go and that's how he kept his personal library manageable.

[Oldhoopster]

On 9/28/2022 at 10:13 AM, Quintus Arrius said:

The owner (now deceased) of one of America's largest used book stores, the Strand, with 18 shelf miles of books, had a simple rule he adhered to at home with his personal collection which he estimated to be 2,000 books.  If he brought home a book--he was the principal buyer in the store so he had first dibs--another had to go and that's how he kept his personal library manageable.

I don't think that's applicable to a reference library.  Not including auction catalogs, I have a few hundred true reference books.  I'm not going to get rid of a book used to attribute bust halves because I got a new book on attributing large cents, for example.  These reference books get used (albeit sometimes sparingly).  Why would I want to get rid of a useful tool in attributing coins. 

Maybe that strategy works if you collect books but I see it as very limiting and short sighted for a numismatic reference library, where the books are actually used, not sitting on a shelf collecting dust.

Just my thoughts.  Everybody is welcome to their own opinion.

[Henri Charriere]

This is what Fred Bass, the late owner of the Strand Book Store, claimed he did.  Does it work in practice?  Well, it never has for me.  And your point is well-taken.  It would defy common sense to do so.  Now, maybe the young students I see walking about, used to and evidently comfortable with the virtual world can do so, but it would never work for me.  Right now, in New York City, there are only a handful of book stores left. BE, Before Eviction, I had the good sense to sell my books, all my books--and even rarely encountered out-of-print paperbacks by authors no longer with us, for a good price. There is no way I could see my way clear to substitute one for the other, particularly ones that are rare and seldom seem, or generally unavailable. I have never seen a Red Book from the 1950's, or earlier, but you're absolutely right, one reference cannot substitute for another. They are all working tools.

***

True story... a visitor from overseas arrived at the Strand one day and the owner instructed his daughter to escort the gentleman upstairs to see Marvin Mondlin in the Rare Book Room.  A giant brouhaha erupted, none of us who were seated close by were privy too.  I was on good terms with Marvin who all concede had a mercurial, unpredictable temperament, and it all boiled down to his abject refusal to part with his collection of indispensable reference books accumulated over a lifetime.  I recall the comment, "I need these the same way a plumber needs his wrench." He could put his foot down with the boss's daughter because #1, he was the Rare Book Dep't. and #2, you cannot prevail against common sense.

[Oldhoopster]

On 9/28/2022 at 1:10 PM, Quintus Arrius said:

This is what Fred Bass, the late owner of the Strand Book Store, claimed he did.  Does it work in practice?  Well, it never has for me.  And your point is well-taken.  It would defy common sense to do so.  Now, maybe the young students I see walking about, used to and evidently comfortable with the virtual world can do so, but it would never work for me.  Right now, in New York City, there are only a handful of book stores left. BE, Before Eviction, I had the good sense to sell my books, all my books--and even rarely encountered out-of-print paperbacks by authors no longer with us, for a good price. There is no way I could see my way clear to substitute one for the other, particularly ones that are rare and seldom seem, or generally unavailable. I have never seen a Red Book from the 1950's, or earlier, but you're absolutely right, one reference cannot substitute for another. They are all working tools.

***

True story... a visitor from overseas arrived at the Strand one day and the owner instructed his daughter to escort the gentleman upstairs to see Marvin Mondlin in the Rare Book Room.  A giant brouhaha erupted, none of us who were seated close by were privy too.  I was on good terms with Marvin who all concede had a mercurial, unpredictable temperament, and it all boiled down to his abject refusal to part with his collection of indispensable reference books accumulated over a lifetime.  I recall the comment, "I need these the same way a plumber needs his wrench." He could put his foot down with the boss's daughter because #1, he was the Rare Book Dep't. and #2, you cannot prevail against common sense.

This is exactly how I feel about my reference library

I recall the comment, "I need these the same way a plumber needs his wrench."