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1922 Low Relief Matte Proof better candidate

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darrincraig1984

darrincraig1984

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Here is another 22 it is double struck, has the correct color and is a first die state 1922 peace.

 

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I will be posting more on this thread soon. I have to wait for my coins to come in. I purchased one that has every single die mark that is present on the 22 matter proof listed on PCGS coinfacts.

 

 

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L1ncolnF4n

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That's a business strike that's probably in the AU-BU grade range, but the pictures don't really show the surfaces. The proofs are so different than business strikes it'd be hard not to notice them 1922%20Peace%20Dollar%20Low%20Relief%20NGC%20PR65%20large.jpg .

 

 

This piece is also NOT double struck. It has what's called a "heavy collar clash" (reference Herbert's guide on mint errors) and is exceedingly common and worth no premium for that.

 

Moreover, according to a HA sale from 2006, Breen had written that 2, just 2, documented LRMP's were produced, both of which are accounted for.

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FishyOne

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It doesn't look like a proof to me. I've handled thousands of 1922 Peace dollars and never come across a low relief proof. Your odds of winning the Powerball are better than coming across a raw, low relief 1922 matte proof Peace dollar.

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Mark T

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The coin is ugly and not a Proof. You are not going to find the Holy Grail Proof Peace dollar.

Do you understand how rare these Proof Peace dollars are ? The chances of you finding one raw is about the same as winning the Power Ball twice in a row .

 

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MarkFeld

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Totally 100% not dipped. The has a very muted almost steel grey look to it. I don't know I have never seen another peace dollar like it. This coin also has far more detail in the central hair. I am sure it hasn't been dipped though.

 

I agree that the coin does not look dipped. However, it is not a Proof. And if you think it might be, you need to study up, instead of dreaming. ;)

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MarkFeld

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Did you even look at it. This is a different coin. Also the LRMP and through satin proofs were not full PROOFS they were basically special strikes.

 

Yes, I looked at the last image/coin - why would you ask or assume otherwise? And I am familiar with the different types of Proof Peace Dollars - I have examined and handled quite a few of them.

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Did you even look at it. This is a different coin. Also the LRMP and through satin proofs were not full PROOFS they were basically special strikes.

 

Pro-tip: If light is actively reflecting off the surface, it's not a matte proof (about 99% accurate on this from pieces I've handled)

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MarkFeld

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Did you even look at it. This is a different coin. Also the LRMP and through satin proofs were not full PROOFS they were basically special strikes.

 

Pro-tip: If light is actively reflecting off the surface, it's not a matte proof (about 99% accurate on this from pieces I've handled)

 

I think the poster is hoping for and asking about a Satin Proof example, not a Matte.

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L1ncolnF4n

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Did you even look at it. This is a different coin. Also the LRMP and through satin proofs were not full PROOFS they were basically special strikes.

 

Pro-tip: If light is actively reflecting off the surface, it's not a matte proof (about 99% accurate on this from pieces I've handled)

 

I think the poster is hoping for and asking about a Satin Proof example, not a Matte.

 

Touche.

 

Though, iirc, the only Satin example I've seen also had very muted surfaces.

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MarkFeld

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Did you even look at it. This is a different coin. Also the LRMP and through satin proofs were not full PROOFS they were basically special strikes.

 

Pro-tip: If light is actively reflecting off the surface, it's not a matte proof (about 99% accurate on this from pieces I've handled)

 

I think the poster is hoping for and asking about a Satin Proof example, not a Matte.

 

Touche.

 

Though, iirc, the only Satin example I've seen also had very muted surfaces.

 

I have seen a couple of Satin examples and the surfaces were nothing like those seen on the Matte Proofs, in that they did exhibit luster.

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L1ncolnF4n

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Did you even look at it. This is a different coin. Also the LRMP and through satin proofs were not full PROOFS they were basically special strikes.

 

Pro-tip: If light is actively reflecting off the surface, it's not a matte proof (about 99% accurate on this from pieces I've handled)

 

I think the poster is hoping for and asking about a Satin Proof example, not a Matte.

 

Touche.

 

Though, iirc, the only Satin example I've seen also had very muted surfaces.

 

I have seen a couple of Satin examples and the surfaces were nothing like those seen on the Matte Proofs, in that they did exhibit luster.

 

Then I stand corrected on the Satin examples. As I said, I've only seen one, and it was several years ago and I wasn't really paying attention to that as I had several other awesome pieces I was viewing as well.

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MarkFeld

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Did you even look at it. This is a different coin. Also the LRMP and through satin proofs were not full PROOFS they were basically special strikes.

 

Pro-tip: If light is actively reflecting off the surface, it's not a matte proof (about 99% accurate on this from pieces I've handled)

 

I think the poster is hoping for and asking about a Satin Proof example, not a Matte.

 

Touche.

 

Though, iirc, the only Satin example I've seen also had very muted surfaces.

 

I have seen a couple of Satin examples and the surfaces were nothing like those seen on the Matte Proofs, in that they did exhibit luster.

 

Then I stand corrected on the Satin examples. As I said, I've only seen one, and it was several years ago and I wasn't really paying attention to that as I had several other awesome pieces I was viewing as well.

 

Sounds like quite a group of coins you were viewing.

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