Any VAM info appreciated, as well as possible grade - morgan

[SWNGC]

thanks!

[L1ncolnF4n]

MS-64, maybe 5 depending on how deep those facial marks are. I don't think there's enough cameo contrast for PL.

[toyman-migration]

+1

MS-64, maybe 5 depending on how deep those facial marks are. I don't think there's enough cameo contrast for PL.

[$ilverHawk]

MS64 PL.

 

Carl

[yonico]

Looks good enough for PL, but not quite DMPL

 

MS64 sounds about right.

 

 

 

[JStull]

thanks!

 

Best way to determine PL and DMPL, and it's the way the TPGs do it, is place a ruler on a flat surface, then stand the coin on edge at the end of the ruler.

 

If you can see the reflection of 6 inches it's PL and 8 inches is DMPL.

 

As far as grade, I'd give it a 64.

 

Here's the list of known VAMs for the 1880 S:

 

1880 S VAMs

[Mary B]

MS-63 that damage on the cheek is going to hold it back.

[morganguru]

64PL all day long in my book. Nice piece.

 

 

EDIT: <<I don't think there's enough cameo contrast for PL.>>

What does contrast have to do with a MS coin? To the best of my knowledge it's the depth of the fields that determine PL or DPL (DMPL) correct?

[Kamillion]

Ms64 came to mind first. Not sure on the PL

 

Wouldn't be surprised with 64+ or 65.

[physics-fan3.14]

MS-64, maybe 5 depending on how deep those facial marks are. I don't think there's enough cameo contrast for PL.

 

Cameo contrast is absolutely not required for a PL designation. It enhances the eye appeal, and is often found on late 19th century PL pieces, but the depth of mirror is the only requirement for PL or DPL.

 

This coin appears to be a 64PL.

[coinman_23885]

64 PL