Old coins under the floor

[Rawzone]

I was helping my sister with a new floor in her house and under the old one we found these 3 coins.

can anyone identify them?

 

first one. and sorry for the bad pictures.

 

 

 

 

 

[toyman-migration]

I was helping my sister with a new floor in her house and under the old one we found these 3 coins.

can anyone identify them?

 

first one. and sorry for the bad pictures.

 

 

 

 

nice find!!!

[Rawzone]

coin number 2

 

 

 

 

 

[PovertyRow]

Really fascinating. How about #3?

[toyman-migration]

is the 2nd coin a spanish piece

[Rawzone]

3#

 

 

 

[Rawzone]

Please.. i really need help here.

i have been looking for weeks now.

my info is so far.

 

Nr 1.

 

date 1630

name on coin "Wolff Lavffer" maybe V is U ??

i think other words on coin is German.

the date side says "Gelt macht sck.... maybe sckseck.

 

Nr 2

 

name on coin "Wolf Lav... maybe lavfer

head side letter.. XIIII DG FR?T REX.

 

Nr 3

 

Head side letter.. LVDXV DGFR??R

other side.. DAT ??VCVS QUE??? maybe QUECON

under leaves text FF W.H.H

 

it think the 2 first coins is jetons made in nuremburg.

but far from sure.

can you help with some info on these?

 

 

 

[RWB]

Well --- just a guess, but #1 might be a reformation token. The obverse inscription "Geld macht scha" (geldt macht scha) means "Money does harm." The two men - a mason and a priest - weigh faith (on the left) against gold, with gold outweighing faith. (Catholic church "fee for faith" vs reformation's direct redemption.)

 

Reverse shows a wealthy man covered in rich clothing and ornaments. Part of the inscription seens to read: “Ich hab die angenehme Kunst Die Machen…” or “I have a pleasant art, the making of…”

 

OK…this is not much and it could be totally wrong…. such as from the Milwaukee subway system.

 

[Rawzone]

Thanks RWB.

 

but im still lost with these coins

 

feel free to help me.

 

could ngc conserve them or are they to damage?

[RockMyAmadeus]

3#

 

 

 

 

This is probably a crude token, made in France during the reign of Louis XV

 

The obverse reads "Louis XV, by the grade of God, King of France and Navarre."

[RockMyAmadeus]

coin number 2

 

 

 

 

 

 

This coin is perhaps a sou, made during the reign of Louis XIV.

 

The obverse reads the same as above, except for XIIII instead of XV (14 vs 15)

[Rawzone]

thanks..

i have not been able to find one that looks like them at all even with your help.

do you??

 

does anybody think these can be conserved by ncs?

[coinman1794]

NCS may be able to stabilize them and/or remove excess dirt and residue, but the coins corroded and damaged, and nothing can be done about that.