1869 INDIAN PENNY PROOF

[mrkim-migration]

WHAT WOULD YOU GRADE THIS CAMEO PROOF?

 

[Bugmann1974]

Again, I will say, it is impossible to grade a coin from GSCs images. They are known to use manipulated images. Again I really strongly suggest you steer clear of this seller.

[Raybo55]

I would never buy raw from said company.

[JOBESSI]

I have bought two "high grade" coins from this seller in the past, both came back details. When I informed the seller, he blocked me.

[Mark T]

I doubt the coin is cameo. It may be proof however I would bet it has surface issues or something else not visible in the juiced up GSC picture.

 

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Do yourself a favor and stop buying raw coins from these people , they over grade by as much as 5 points and many of their coins have surface issues which would put the coin in a details holder if sent into a TPG.

For the $1775 you paid for this coin you could have purchased a certified PF 64 Cameo. I think when you get the coin in hand you will understand .

 

[coinman_23885]

 

Do yourself a favor and stop buying raw coins from these people , they over grade by as much as 5 points and many of their coins have surface issues which would put the coin in a details holder if sent into a TPG.

 

This is a vast understatement; describing whizzed, AU coins as "gem bu" is a larger gap than 5 points.

 

P.S. I'm not trying to be nit-picky here, but I think you meant PF64 Cameo at the bottom of your post. I know it was a typo (and you know the difference), but I think that anyone purchasing from this particular seller (and who believes that you can grade supposed high end proof 19th century type coins by images) has a high probability of being new to the field, and I wanted to make sure that the OP understood/understands the difference.

[TomB]

It is impossible to accurately grade a brilliant proof coin from images such as those. That said, I doubt that is much of a chance at all of this being designated as a cameo from PCGS or NGC.

[FILTHYHOARD]

Right about now I'd be more concerned if that spot between "United" and "States" was verdigris and not just a carbon spot

[coinman_23885]

Right about now I'd be more concerned if that spot between "United" and "States" was verdigris and not just a carbon spot

 

+1

[MarkFeld]

Based on the image, it looks like a non-cameo proof and one with unnatural color. Avoid.

[Mark T]

Right about now I'd be more concerned if that spot between "United" and "States" was verdigris and not just a carbon spot

 

+2

[Mark T]

Based on the image, it looks like a non-cameo proof and one with unnatural color. Avoid.

 

+1

[Mark T]

 

Do yourself a favor and stop buying raw coins from these people , they over grade by as much as 5 points and many of their coins have surface issues which would put the coin in a details holder if sent into a TPG.

 

This is a vast understatement; describing whizzed, AU coins as "gem bu" is a larger gap than 5 points.

 

P.S. I'm not trying to be nit-picky here, but I think you meant PF64 Cameo at the bottom of your post. I know it was a typo (and you know the difference), but I think that anyone purchasing from this particular seller (and who believes that you can grade supposed high end proof 19th century type coins by images) has a high probability of being new to the field, and I wanted to make sure that the OP understood/understands the difference.

 

Note that I said many of their coins have surface issues along with the overgrading comment . I think most including yourself know how I feel about GSC . What you never heard of Ms Cameo ?

 

 

[brg5658]

If the return time hasn't expired, I would send it back and get my money back ASAP!