Die Crack on Morgan?Don't think so

[prudden]

Has anyone ever seen a die crack like this? I sure haven't.It starts/finishes in the hairline and circles over the cap to the back of the head. Looks like a very bad/stupid staple scratch or what I don't know. Would have been a pretty highly graded 80S DMPL without it.

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/AMAZING-1880-S-PL-DMPL-MORGAN-DOLLAR-GEM-BU_W0QQitemZ220561204792QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_US_Individual?hash=item335a78e638

[cpm9ball]

It looks to me like it might be a strikethrough, but what do I know. I'm blind!

 

Chris

[James_OldeTowne]

It appears to be a coin with a phenomenal strike-through - wow! However, it also looks like one of those sneaky deceptive images used to make a coin look DMPL when it isn't really.

[L1ncolnF4n]

That coin feels wrong to me. Surfaces look wayyyy to clean, but then again it might be a fabulous UNC. That's a scratch by the looks of it, it looks like it goes in to Liberty's head, and seemingly around the lettering. Could be a hair or something in the die, could even be a crack, but that seems like 1 in a trillion chance.

[johnny9434]

The Morgan looks to neat to me, almost to real. I'm not buying into that one at all, jmho.

[prudden]

Hey guys,

I'm not a buyer on this one. The seller claims it's a die crack. there's a small possibilty it's a strike through.Like James said,that would be a WOW strikethrough. Oh well,just not feeling it on this one.

[cpm9ball]

The only one with a crack in the head is the seller. I'd stay away from it.

 

Chris

[Conder101]

Looks like a strike through to me.

[jgrinz]

Looks like a strike through to me.

 

Yeah me too - BUT - Polished up nice and pretty

[$ilverHawk]

OK, what have we got here. A raw 1880-S Morgan. Grey sheet DPML 63 $90.00 DPML64 $280.00 and a whole lot less MS or PL and this coin has a scratch, not a die crack, not a strike through---a scratch. Somebody paid $235.00 for this coin, God bless them and I hope they wise up quickly.

 

Check out this sellers other listings and photographs. Newbie scam central.

[RWB]

Just curious how Morgan dollar collectors modify value of a coin.

 

Obviously a scratch (which this looks like) would reduce the value of the coin to barely above melt. What would a crack (not possible - too smooth) or a strike through do to value, assuming it was MS-63 DMPL?

 

[cpm9ball]

Just curious how Morgan dollar collectors modify value of a coin.

 

Obviously a scratch (which this looks like) would reduce the value of the coin to barely above melt. What would a crack (not possible - too smooth) or a strike through do to value, assuming it was MS-63 DMPL?

 

Roger,

 

I'm sure you are aware that Morgans are notorious for having die cracks, and as such, neither adds nor detracts from the value of a coin unless there is substantial metal displacement. At that point it is then called a die break.

 

A strikethrough is generally considered a "one shot deal" that is not usually repeated on the next planchet(s). A strikethrough may be important for determining the die state (EDS, MDS or LDS), but it is not considered noteworthy where value is concerned to anyone other than an error collector.

 

Chris

[RWB]

Chris,

Thanks! I've got so much archival dust in my feeble brain that sometimes I lose track of the practical stuff!

 

The ideas behind this kind of info will eventually roll into the next edition of the Peace dollar book, and possibly another project under consideration.

 

[cpm9ball]

Chris,

Thanks! I've got so much archival dust in my feeble brain that sometimes I lose track of the practical stuff!

 

The ideas behind this kind of info will eventually roll into the next edition of the Peace dollar book, and possibly another project under consideration.

 

I tried to use one of those non-static dusters once to clean out my brain, but all I got was a bunch of ear wax.

 

Please keep us posted on your work-in-progress.

 

Chris