Definition of 1st strike

[JIM F.]

Since all 2009 Platinum proofs sold out within 1 week, by definition it seems to me they are ALL first strikes. TPG holders with that definition should not add any value. Comments?

 

[MunkyMan95]

 

First Strike: noun - a scam perpetrated by third party grading services

[cpm9ball]

 

First Strike: noun - a scam perpetrated by third party grading services

 

I don't think the scam was perpetrated by the grading services. They were just bowing to the demands of certain sellers, like Coin Vault, who wanted to pull a fast one on the uneducated public.

 

Chris

[michael]

yes

 

look at any pre 1915 brilliant proof coin and if it is strongly, deeply mirrored and with a really strong cameo to deep cameo i would consider this a first strike

 

and of course for example with proof gold coins of the brilliant era where most all mintages are under 200 then all are first strikes

[michael]

Since all 2009 Platinum proofs sold out within 1 week, by definition it seems to me they are ALL first strikes. TPG holders with that definition should not add any value. Comments?

 

all plastic with multiple definations on the holder add mucho value

 

first strike

fbl

fullhead

split bands

cameo

deep cameo

superbird

69

70

star

dmpl

dpl

pl

sp

pop top

older holder

fat boy

green tag

rattler

 

just ask 99% of the collectors out there that have slabbed coins

 

HOLDERS WITH MORE WORDS ON THEM AND THE HIGHER THE GRADE ABOVE 68 THE BETTER

[DC Dawg]

HOLDERS WITH MORE WORDS ON THEM AND THE HIGHER THE GRADE ABOVE 68 THE BETTER

Gee Michael, where's your holiday spirit!!

 

Scott

 

[James_OldeTowne]

Wow, michael brings up a fantastic point! Maybe we should beware of a slabbed coin if the grade nomenclature takes up more space on the insert than the name of the coin itself!

 

BRILLIANT!

[BillJones]

Since all 2009 Platinum proofs sold out within 1 week, by definition it seems to me they are ALL first strikes. TPG holders with that definition should not add any value. Comments?

 

Yes according to the definition of "first strike" they all should be first strikes. The whole "first Strike" thing is a bunch of bull. The mint strikes the coins before they issue them and mixes up the first ones off the dies with all the rest. In the old days cameo Proof coins were either first strikes or first strikes AFTER the dies had been repolished. Now all modern Proof coin are cameo so it really doesn't matter if it's the first coin struck or number 100,000.

 

"First Strike" is for foolish people who believe in gimmicks.

[Jeffrey Cardona]

Since all 2009 Platinum proofs sold out within 1 week, by definition it seems to me they are ALL first strikes. TPG holders with that definition should not add any value. Comments?

 

all plastic with multiple definations on the holder add mucho value

 

first strike

fbl

fullhead

split bands

cameo

deep cameo

superbird

69

70

star

dmpl

dpl

pl

sp

pop top

older holder

fat boy

green tag

rattler

 

just ask 99% of the collectors out there that have slabbed coins

 

HOLDERS WITH MORE WORDS ON THEM AND THE HIGHER THE GRADE ABOVE 68 THE BETTER

 

Don't forget "Early Release"

 

What a joke!!

[michael]

yes thanks nasf i was racking my brain as i could not remember waht the other term was besides first strike

 

yes it is early release thanks!!

 

 

well i guess i am an old fashioned kind of guy with federal, colonial coinage and other tokens/medals of the pre 1900 era the services are grading and i am wondering when the new hundred point grading system will take hmaffect/effect

 

also i wonder when the new term on the holder for proof/ms 70 coins will either be solid or PQ for the 70 grade as many people are telling me now that all 70 graded coins are not the same as some are all there and some are not and a few are killer pq for the grade which i find extremely funny and yet disconcerting as i bet many 70 coins if broken out of their respective holders and resubmitted would never get the 70 grade again and personally i feel that 69 should be the highest grade awarded

 

and YES!! i am sure there are also solid and extremely pq for the grade 69 graded coins to boot

 

but it aint a sandbox i want to play in

[PerryHall]

Didn't "first strike" used to mean the first coin struck off a new pair dies?

[RWB]

“First Strike”

[imbecile noun] A marketing scam based on arbitrary redefinition of common language to imply something which it is not.

A con; a pig in a poke.

A meaningless designation designed to entrap the ignorant and extract money from them.

 

[cpm9ball]

S U C K E R P U N C H

[michael]

simple answer

 

 

 

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[Jeffrey Cardona]

yes thanks nasf i was racking my brain as i could not remember waht the other term was besides first strike

 

yes it is early release thanks!!

 

 

well i guess i am an old fashioned kind of guy with federal, colonial coinage and other tokens/medals of the pre 1900 era the services are grading and i am wondering when the new hundred point grading system will take hmaffect/effect

 

also i wonder when the new term on the holder for proof/ms 70 coins will either be solid or PQ for the 70 grade as many people are telling me now that all 70 graded coins are not the same as some are all there and some are not and a few are killer pq for the grade which i find extremely funny and yet disconcerting as i bet many 70 coins if broken out of their respective holders and resubmitted would never get the 70 grade again and personally i feel that 69 should be the highest grade awarded

 

and YES!! i am sure there are also solid and extremely pq for the grade 69 graded coins to boot

 

but it aint a sandbox i want to play in

 

You are very welcome...glad I can help with my "2 cents"

[WoodenJefferson]

[Coin]

The ceremonial First Strikes , coins struck during a ceremony prior to the striking of regular mintage , have even more words on their holders . ; )

[michael]

i will start a slabbing service send me your coins i will put them in a sonically sealed holder and i will put whatever YOU want on the holder (within reason)

cant put ms 67 on a coin tag if the coin you send to me that is only ag-3 but for a larger fee this would be okie

 

 

up to four lines and up to 100 letters/numbers

 

all for 35 dollars per coin

[JIM F.]

Didn't SEGS beat you to that?

[19Lyds]

Since all 2009 Platinum proofs sold out within 1 week, by definition it seems to me they are ALL first strikes. TPG holders with that definition should not add any value. Comments?

 

Sold out in 1 week and shipped can be two different things.

[michael]

Didn't SEGS beat you to that?

 

 

never thought about that

 

 

[19Lyds]

 

First Strike: noun - a scam perpetrated by third party grading services

 

Folks like their First Strike Slabs:

 

 

 

I, like my First Strike Slabs.

 

I also like my Millenium Eagle along with a lot of other folks:

 

 

You wanna diss that one too since its exactly the same as any other 2000 Silver Eagle except with a different slab label?