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Trivia questions (Seated coinage)

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EVillageProwler

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In honor of Sean (aka KoinKollector), whom I haven't seen trolling either message board in a while...

 

Two questions:

 

1. What is the Orphan Annie dime, and why is it so famous?

 

2. Which member of the LSCC is writing an e-book about die marriages and states, and for which denomination?

 

EVP

 

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EVillageProwler

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Ok, I see this wasn't so popular!

 

1. The Orphan Annie dime is the 1844 issue. It's famous, or rather infamous, because some West Coast collector thinks he can corner the market on this date of so-so actual scarcity. He buys every specimen he sees, causing the price to escalate. He also makes it known that he's a strong buyer of this date, and the price keeps rising.

 

Ultimately, he's the only buyer -- and at a self-induced artificially high price -- and he can't sell it to anyone else.

 

Duh!

 

2. Gerry Fortin is writing an e-book for Seated half dimes; at the ANA, he told me that he expects the book to be ready in a year or two. He's been working on this for a very long time. He showed the LSCC membership a preview of it. Pretty nifty.

 

Gerry should be proud of what he's done so far...

 

EVP

 

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Yutoku-san,

 

An e-book is really any book that is suitable for the computer-age. (Perhaps my usage of the terminology was a bit lax!) In this case, Mr. Fortin will be distributing his via CD-ROM.

 

Gerry Fortin, as far as I know, is a collector who probably also sells some stuff. (Nearly all collectors doing some sort of selling!)

 

Since you are a collector of Seated material, I strongly recommend that you join the Liberty Seated Collector's Club. Their web site is at: LSCC LINK.

 

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EVP

 

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toyonakataro

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Thanks EVP

I have a book named "Complete guide to seated liberty half dimes" and although it's a nice book, it's not perfect.I need more detailed descriptions on varieties.

I'm looking forward to see Mr.Fortin's work.

I also e-mailed LSCL a few months ago asking to let me join, but no reply yet.

I think I have to try again.

Taro

 

By the way, do many people collect seated/bust half dimes by variety?

I recently got 1865-s repunched date(scarer variety) without paying premium.

I know I have to pay more money for some major variety such as 1861/0, 1847 large dates, but I wonder if rare, but minor varieties also bring premium.

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EVillageProwler

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Thanks EVP

 

You're most welcome.

 

I have a book named "Complete guide to seated liberty half dimes" and although it's a nice book, it's not perfect.I need more detailed descriptions on varieties.

 

That book is very old and now very incomplete. Gerry's book will have all the power of a spreadsheet and wordprocessor. Big pictures, links, searches, etc.

 

I also e-mailed LSCL a few months ago asking to let me join, but no reply yet.

 

I joined by attending one of their meetings at a major show. A local dealer, and highly respected Seated specialist, sort of forced me to go to the 9AM meeting!

 

By the way, do many people collect seated/bust half dimes by variety?

 

I think NO for Seated half dimes, and only a FEW for Bust half dimes. I have a friend who specializes in Early Half Dimes. You should see his 1801 (probably top 3 extant) and his 1805 -- both dripping with originality. And his 1797's are beautiful too.

 

I recently got 1865-s repunched date(scarer variety) without paying premium.

I know I have to pay more money for some major variety such as 1861/0, 1847 large dates, but I wonder if rare, but minor varieties also bring premium.

 

You should not have to pay much premium for a lot of these minor varieties. They're really not that interesting to most people. Also, the 1861/0 isn't really an overdate; it's actually an RPD. No specialist will pay much for that coin...

 

The rarer Early Half Dime varieties, on the other hand, will carry a large premium. For example, the 1803 Small 8 will cost a lot more than the Large 8 variety. If you see a nice one, please let me know!

 

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The new book will be my treasure because I want to collect seated half dimes by varieties. But the problem is the coin itself is soo small and I can't tell the variety from the pic online. I have to see them in person, but don't have much opportunity to attend a show. And I don't even have much dates yet. I thought collecting this series was not very difficult, but I was just ignorant/stupid. I need patience and $$$ to comple the set. I may collect early half dimes after I finish my seated half dime set, but I know it will take a long long time.

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Critical to learning Seated Half Dimes is an article written by Jim O'Donnell (my friend who got me into the LSCC) for the June 1999 monthly supplement of the Coin Dealer Newsletter.

 

You should be able to obtain that issue by going to Coin Dealer Newsletter.

 

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Go to the web site, select Search, and enter in ``Seated Half Dimes''. You'll get a list of articles that you can buy, and the one I'm familiar with is the June 1999 article.

 

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Oh, boy, did I goof on this one!!! The e-book that Gerry Fortin is working on is about Seated DIMES. Sorry!!!

 

They're both so small that I got confused...

 

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WOW... Im REALLY late on this thread! (how do you do the smiley icons here??)

Anyways... EVP, you need to do another seated dime trivia laugh.gif (does that work?)

In regards to the "west coast collector". Its funny because he has a certain dealer in CA buying the coins for him. Ive dealt w/ Dave a number of times, and it seems everytime we talk or have a transaction he asks about 1844 dimes, "any grade, problem coins, no matter". Ive also heard rumors that this certain collector has tried to sell off a few pieces w/o much success. I dunno, if I was that fanatic about a certain date it sure wouldnt be the 1844, maybe the 46. To each his own I guess.

 

 

Taro,

If you see this, send me your address in japan. I will forward you a form to fill out for membership to the LSCC. Which I highly reccomed you join. As far as good, somewhat up to date reference material, you might conider buying the Journals Collective volumes. There are currently 4 Collective volumes, ALL FULL of good stuff

 

 

Sean

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