Grades are in..........Guess the grades on these two coins. **Grades Revealed**

[relicsncoins]

Please don't cheat and look at the shared orders page.

 

These coins were both purchased raw and submitted to PCGS.

 

Please guess the grade you think each coin graded and put genuine and the reason if you think it didn't grade.

 

 

First coin an 1875 S 20 cent piece.

 

 

 

Next is an 1857 Flying Eagle cent.

 

[James_OldeTowne]

I'll guess XF-40 and AU-55. I didn't cheat, and wouldn't even know how!

[physics-fan3.14]

I'll go VF-30+ and AU-55. Both are nice coins.

[L1ncolnF4n]

VF-30 and AU-53

 

is that a crack running along the bottom right of the device on the obverse?

[dean1345]

VF-30 and AU-58

[relicsncoins]

VF-30 and AU-53

 

is that a crack running along the bottom right of the device on the obverse?

 

Yes, a die crack.

[MarkFeld]

Before I saw the grades, I had guessed XF40 and MS63. For you guys who guessed AU on the Flying Eagle Cent, where are you (imagining that you are) seeing wear? Look at the eagle - it exhibits a very bold strike, with no hint of wear in areas where it would typically manifest itself..

[physics-fan3.14]

Before I saw the grades, I had guessed XF40 and MS63. For you guys who guessed AU on the Flying Eagle Cent, where are you (imagining that you are) seeing wear? Look at the eagle - it exhibits a very bold strike, with no hint of wear in areas where it would typically manifest itself..

 

I am (imagining) I'm seeing darker high points, which indicates to me either rub, or toning. The luster looks full, which probably mean it is MS, but I went with AU as a conservative grade from images. I'm guessing in all likelihood that it probably did get 63 or 64.

[relicsncoins]

Thanks for playing.........

 

The 20 Cent Piece graded out at EF-45. I was expecting 40.

 

And the FE cent graded out at 64. I was expecting 58.

[physics-fan3.14]

 

And the FE cent graded out at 64. I was expecting 58.

 

And you had it in hand! Grading borderline coins AU/MS is one of the hardest parts of grading, in my experience.

 

Congrats on the grades, very nice!

[MarkFeld]

 

Grading borderline coins AU/MS is one of the hardest parts of grading, in my experience.

I agree, but don't believe that this was one of those instances.

[michael]

30 and 63

[BillJones]

I'd grade the Twenty Cent piece as an EF-40. The Flying Eagle looks like an MS-64, but it may have been dipped. If so that would lower it to MS-63, but in any case that's about as good a strike as you will see for that type.

[coinman1794]

Thanks for playing.........

 

The 20 Cent Piece graded out at EF-45. I was expecting 40.

 

And the FE cent graded out at 64. I was expecting 58.

 

My grades on these were XF45 and MS63.

 

The 20C is fully detailed so XF40 wouldnt work, and there isnt enough luster for AU.

 

On the FE, I can see what looks like rub on the ribbon on the reverse, so I thought maybe AU58. On the other hand, the obv. looks solidly Unc. The reverse picture is blurry so I couldnt say if it was definitely rub, so I would not allow the coin to grade higher than MS63 because I would count that possible rub as cabinet friction (surface abrasion rather than wear), and it would limit the MS grade to 62-63. Perhaps the light color on the ribbon was actually just a variation in the toning, because it graded MS64.

 

[James_OldeTowne]

I think the image of the FEC is rather fuzzy, and that's what led me to think it had wear. My guess was 5 points low on the 20c, but really, I can't argue with XF-45. It is a handsome coin.

[HiHoAudio]

I knew the FE was a beauty, maybe MS63, but MS64, wow. Congratulations!