PGM:1863 coin/token

[Golden Oldie]

Not sure what this is. Is it in good condition? What value does it have?

[Schatzy]

? No idea for me!!

[bsshog40]

You can tell by the Rev that this is some sort of a civil war token. I'm not sure whats going on with the fields of this coin either.

[RI AL]

Patriotic Civil War token, obverse looks like F-111, which matches with reverse F-271. Why the 3 is munched into the bottom of the bust I have no clue. I say "looks like" 111 and 271 but neither is a perfect match. This is (I think) a scarcer, rarity 4 but not a high priced token. I would estimate $10-$15 but if anyone out there can provide better information, I'd be anxious to know.

 

Ri AL

[James_OldeTowne]

Realistically not worth certifying in terms of value, but this is a somewhat better CWT (Civil War Token). It carries a definite premium due to the Washington motif, and appears to be of a better MS grade.

[BillJones]

I’m not 100% sure of this, but I have very strong suspicions that this token is a counterfeit. I don’t like the mushy surfaces mixed with all the red that is showing on this piece. Fuld patriotic variety #111 is sharper than this, and I see no reason to accept the fact that a genuine piece would have this kind of mushiness.

 

A few years ago a dealer showed me some counterfeit Civil War tokens that had appearances similar to this piece. The varieties were not the same, but the overall look was very similar. Those copies had the same grainy surfaces mixed with red color.

 

[RI AL]

BillJones. I wonder if that's why I couldn't get a perfect match on either side in the Feld book???

[Golden Oldie]

I think you are correct on thinking this is a counterfeit. The thing just doesn't look right in hand. I had showed it to a dealer and he thought it was genuine. Guess he didn't look very closely at it.

My husband inherited it from his Dad's coin collection. Hi Dad may have known it was a fake but just hadn't IDed it as such.

 

 

Thanks,

 

 

Pat