Amero, the new money?

[bsshog40]

So do you think that one day the US, Canada, and Mexico will someday have the same money?

In August 2007, rumors and conspiracy theories began circulating across the Internet regarding alleged United States Treasury issued "amero" coins.

 

The inspiration behind these rumors may have been the posting of images of medallions created by coin designer Daniel Carr. Carr, who designed the New York and Rhode Island 2001 statehood quarters, sells medals and tokens of his own design on his commercial website, "Designs Computed" (also known as "DC Coin"). Among his designs are a series of gold, silver and copper fantasy issues of "amero coins" ranging in denomination from one to one thousand. The coins have the legend "Union of North America" on the back with his company's logo, a stylized "DC", in small type. Concerning his "amero" designs, he mentions on his website:

 

“ My goal with these coins is not to endorse a Union of North America or a common "amero" currency. I fully support the United States Constitution, and I would not welcome (in any form) a diminishment of its provisions. I expect that these coins will help make more people aware of the issue and the possible ramifications. I leave it up to others to decide if they are in favor of, or against a North American Union. And I encourage citizens to voice their approval or disapproval of government plans that impact them.

 

[DC Dawg]

You might want to check out this discussion we had previous about the Amero.

 

I will stick with my conclusion that the US would have the most to lose by converting to an Amero, even with the economic downfall. Besides, the dollar is the equivalent to the Amero. It is the currency of choice for Central America and international trade with Mexico. It used to be worth doing business in Canada with the US dollar, but the recent fiscal issues does not make it worth while!

 

Scott

[Zoins]

Would it be pretty cool if Daniel Carr put Libertad and Libertie on the Amero? It could be a modern version of the Three Graces

[MorganMan]

Here ya go 100 Ameros...this is the 1 oz silver round

 

 

 

By the time they actually make these, the dollar will be valued so low, we will need tha 100 Amero denomination to buy a pack of gum....

 

Of course, now they will have to ask Dcarr if they can use his "Amero" coin name....

 

MM

[TomB]

His goal in producing these fantasy rounds is to make money and there is nothing inherently wrong with that.

[World Colonial]

I read your post at the other link and basically agree with what you wote.

[bsshog40]

His goal in producing these fantasy rounds is to make money and there is nothing inherently wrong with that.

 

That's exactlly all these can be considered as Tom. (thumbs u

[pendragon1998]

 

 

You know, the angle that the woman's head is turned at is physically impossible. About the best I can manage is 90 degrees to the front of my body. She's at more like 130. Yeesh.

[bsshog40]

It looks more like the head was attached to the body than it actually matching the body.

[Houston Investor]

Considering that Mexico is grossly impoverished and overpopulated (we need to block these people from coming in not let them in!), the deluge of population flow into the old USA would dilute our country into that of a third world nation (or has this already happened in areas of the American Southwest?) further compounding the losses suffered by American Workers from corporate downsizing and golobalization . Our standard of living would be similar to China or probably worse unless the NAU enforces proper birth control.

 

I am impressed with the NAU coins. Our current primary circulation designs have been stagnant for decades. We should remove presidents from our circulating coinage and go with national themes. The cent and nickel need to be eliminated with a $500 and $1000 bill added.

[mrearlygold]

It will happen and the vast majority of people here will surrender to it just like they've surrendered so much else. Without even an argument. Heck, without even the slightest awareness

[RWB]

No. The artist is simply promoting sale of his medals. The rest is meaningless drivel.

[ibyandsellsmith]

It will never happen do to the money exchange rate, not to mention the dollar would plummet to next to nothing.

[bsshog40]

The site was working a little slow for me earlier so I dashed to Ebay to look around. I saw one of these silver coins, 1/4oz silver proof and the bid was up to $83. I couldn't believe that for a fantasy coin.

[Houston Investor]

Do you think ICG will grade it?

[bsshog40]

Do you think ICG will grade it?

 

These are not legitimate coins, medals, or tokens. They are just a designers imagination put to form. I don't think they could be graded unless the coin was sponsored by some type of historical or government society.

[TomB]

Do you think ICG will grade it?

 

These are not legitimate coins, medals, or tokens. They are just a designers imagination put to form. I don't think they could be graded unless the coin was sponsored by some type of historical or government society.

ICG will grade most anything and in the past ICG has graded many of the fantasy tokens created by DC.

[DC Dawg]

Do you think ICG will grade it?

These are not legitimate coins, medals, or tokens. They are just a designers imagination put to form. I don't think they could be graded unless the coin was sponsored by some type of historical or government society.

What would make them illegitimate, especially as a medal or token?

 

Scott

[Conder101]

It will never happen do to the money exchange rate, not to mention the dollar would plummet to next to nothing.

What does the exchange rate have to do with it? When the Euro was introduced the various countries currencies were all at greatly varying values to each other yet the Euro still went forward. What is important is the fiscal stability of the government which was why th member countries had strict goals they had to meet as to deficits, inflation rates etc.The Amero will not come to pass because we can't meet the same kind of fiscal guidelines.

 

If the Amero did come to pass the idea of the dollar plummeting is meaningless because there would be no dollar to plummet. Just as there is no Mark, no Franc, no Lira etc. An exchange rate is set at the time of introduction and then the dollar ceases to exist and the exchange rate no longer changes.

[bsshog40]

Do you think ICG will grade it?

These are not legitimate coins, medals, or tokens. They are just a designers imagination put to form. I don't think they could be graded unless the coin was sponsored by some type of historical or government society.

What would make them illegitimate, especially as a medal or token?

 

Scott

 

I guess you could consider them as a token. A medal would represent something but a token is a gesture.

[cpm9ball]

..................a $500 and $1000 bill added.

 

Yeah, let's make it easier for the drug smugglers and money launderers.

 

Chris

[cpm9ball]

You might want to check out this discussion we had previous about the Amero.

 

I will stick with my conclusion that the US would have the most to lose by converting to an Amero, even with the economic downfall. Besides, the dollar is the equivalent to the Amero. It is the currency of choice for Central America and international trade with Mexico. It used to be worth doing business in Canada with the US dollar, but the recent fiscal issues does not make it worth while!

 

Scott

 

A North American Union from a southerly perspective:

 

Yeah, we definitely need more migrant workers, day laborers and lawn care specialists!

 

A North American Union from a northerly perspective:

 

We could certainly benefit with free healthcare!

 

A North American Union from a U.S. perspective:

 

But then, doctors would become middle-class wage earners, pharmaceutical companies would no longer be able to charge outrageous prices and the legislators who support them would lose many of their perks.

 

Chris

[jackson64]

The whole North American Union thing has been very hush hush ( I don't like hush hush)....the first I heard of it was this video...

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[gpnyc]

1776 would happen all over again if anyone really tried this. Yet another example of why we will never surrender our 2nd Amendment rights. You would need to turn the right in this country into the same sheeple we see on the left before something like a North American Union could occur peacefully.

[astrostu]

1776 would happen all over again if anyone really tried this. Yet another example of why we will never surrender our 2nd Amendment rights. You would need to turn the right in this country into the same sheeple we see on the left before something like a North American Union could occur peacefully.

 

Is it really necessary to resort to such emotive and insulting language? I realize this board allows much more breadth in political discourse, but I really take offense when you call me, a liberal, "sheeple," and I'm sure that others do, too. You can still easily make whatever point you wish without being so incendiary.

[gpnyc]

1776 would happen all over again if anyone really tried this. Yet another example of why we will never surrender our 2nd Amendment rights. You would need to turn the right in this country into the same sheeple we see on the left before something like a North American Union could occur peacefully.

 

Is it really necessary to resort to such emotive and insulting language? I realize this board allows much more breadth in political discourse, but I really take offense when you call me, a liberal, "sheeple," and I'm sure that others do, too. You can still easily make whatever point you wish without being so incendiary.

 

Me thinks thou doth protest too much. I never used the word "liberal." As a matter of fact, you did. I said "left."

 

Maybe I should have been more specific. I revise my statement from "left" to "far left, moveon.org, Chavez coddling, socialist, moonbat sheeple." The people who want to destroy this country. The people who blame this country for all the world's ills. This certainly does not include moderate liberals, who I am sure love this country as much as I do.

 

That's the last I will say on this topic. Take it for what its worth or read more into it than it says.

[jackson64]

what's a sheeple?...

[astrostu]

1776 would happen all over again if anyone really tried this. Yet another example of why we will never surrender our 2nd Amendment rights. You would need to turn the right in this country into the same sheeple we see on the left before something like a North American Union could occur peacefully.

 

Is it really necessary to resort to such emotive and insulting language? I realize this board allows much more breadth in political discourse, but I really take offense when you call me, a liberal, "sheeple," and I'm sure that others do, too. You can still easily make whatever point you wish without being so incendiary.

 

Me thinks thou doth protest too much. I never used the word "liberal." As a matter of fact, you did. I said "left."

 

 

I simply equated "left" with "liberal," as most anyone does. However, to ease tensions slightly more, I will say that my comment was not just directed at you, it just happened to be your post that set it off.

 

It seems that whenever conversations become political in nature on this board, it turns decidedly to the right (as in conservative) with flagrant accusations on how anyone who is on the left (or liberal in any way) is in the wrong and is destroying America just for supporting any kind of welfare programs, gun restrictions, etc. It's annoying that people whose coin opinions I've come to respect are suddenly reduced to mud-slinging party-liners who seem to have nothing better to do than complain about how everything wrong is someone else's fault.

 

 

what's a sheeple?...

 

"Sheeple." - noun - Created by combining the words "sheep" and "people" to indicate a person or group of persons who are "sheep-like" in disposition, complete followers who are free of independent thought or resolve. In other words, a derogatory term with the sole purpose of people off.