1891-CC VAM-3 TOP 100 MORGAN HELP!!!

[traderjoe-migration]

Hi all,

I wanted your opinion on this coin please. Below are 2 pics of it and I wanted to know if anyone could tell if it's been cleaned and if not, what grade would you give it. I did not see any signes of cleaning and would give it an MS-64 DPL. Lets see what you guys think.

 

 

[Dwaine]

This looks like a proof coin with how reflective everything is. But something just doesn't look right to me with this coin. The picture is not the best.

[traderjoe-migration]

What do you mean doesn't look right? Does it look cleaned? I doubt it's a proof. I just think it's a Deep Proof Like finish.

[jesbroken]

Beautiful coin, jo. It has the look of a coin that has been in a jewelry holder-note the 3 and 9 oclock rim positions on the reverse. Maybe not, but something is there. Has anyone measured the depth of the mirror finish as there is a $5-6k difference in value between the PL and DPL in the 64 grade you infer. From the pics you offer a grade is hard but this coin could easily go MS64 and at least PL

Great coin.

Good luck and welcome to the forum, I am sure you will find your answers here.

Jim

[James_OldeTowne]

The reflectivity appears unnatural to me, but it could be a problem with the imaging technique. From the standpoint of surfaces and detail, it should grade MS-63 or so. I don't think the obverse will allow for a PL modifier, however.

[RGT]

It looks thumbed.

 

Or are those fingers?

 

 

Ok, maybe it's just the pictures but it doesn't look quite right to me either. Maybe it's just a PL that's been dipped.

[cpm9ball]

Can you give us close-ups of Liberty's chin, the eagle's beak, the mintmark and the reverse denticles between 1 and 4 o'clock?

 

Chris

[traderjoe-migration]

Thanks guys. I will try to get some more closeups and see if they help. I just don't want to invest money into grading if it's just going to comeback body bagged. It is a rare coin and it would really stink if some insufficiently_thoughtful_person did something to it.

[James_OldeTowne]

Thanks guys. I will try to get some more closeups and see if they help. I just don't want to invest money into grading if it's just going to comeback body bagged. It is a rare coin and it would really stink if some insufficiently_thoughtful_person did something to it.

I don't think it's a waste of money to get it certified! It's a coin you should send in.

[CHABSENTIA]

I would like to see more close ups. I have to agree with a previuos poster that it might have been in some holder as the denticles at 3 oclock and nine o clock look a little damaged but it could be the picture.

 

While it is true that NGC will body bag it if this is the case I would still send it to ANACS. The 1891 CC is worth encapsulating if it is authenic which seems to be the case. ANACS will still put it in a holder but will detail it if this is the case.

 

 

[mcmxi-migration]

The obverse just dosent look righ to me.

[rrantique]

The obverse just dosent look righ to me.

 

Welcome to the forum.

[WoodenJefferson]

The obverse just dosent look righ to me.

 

We would like to hear your thoughts about why? (please explain, this is not a trap, just curious as to why you thought the obverse does not look right to you)

 

Welcome.

[DJCoinz]

Something about the angle of the coin and the dark photography leads me to think it's cleaned.

[mcmxi-migration]

Thanks for the welcome.

 

It just seems polished to me from the photo. I could be wrong but there dosen't seem to be the contrast on the obverse compared to the reverse. I am no expert and I certainly am not trying to dog on anyones coins. That was just my initial reaction.

[Just Bob]

Welcome, 1911 (thumbs u

[WoodenJefferson]

 

Lots of times those first knee jerk, gut reactions are realistic. There are times instinct can rule out what you think maybe common sense.

 

[Becky-migration]

We really need better pics. All I see is camera and fingers......

[cpm9ball]

We really need better pics. All I see is camera and fingers......

 

Yes, we really do need better photos (I should talk!). The reverse looks like a bald-headed man kissing someone's butt.

 

Chris

[WoodenJefferson]

We really need better pics. All I see is camera and fingers......

 

The reverse looks like a bald-headed man kissing someone's butt.

 

Chris

 

This is actually way too much information!

 

Butt, (get it) maybe they were attempting to show the reflective properties of the mirrors? I know there are better ways to do this, butt this was his way, accidental or not.

 

Agreed...in this case, better pics would help.