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That's a pretty good guess

 

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1854 Var 2 12800 14000

1855 7200 7900

1856 5500 6000

1857 4300 4700

1858 4000 4400

1859 Var 3 625 675

1860 825 900

1861 625 675

1862 625 675

1863 3 over 2 1160 1260

1863 625 675

1864 625 675

1865 625 675

1866 630 680

1867 625 675

1868 625 675

1869 625 675

1869 9 over 8 2000 2350

1870 625 675

1871 625 675

1872 800 875

1873 1550 1700

47640 52190

 

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That's a pretty good guess

 

Bid Ask

1854 Var 2 12800 14000

1855 7200 7900

1856 5500 6000

1857 4300 4700

1858 4000 4400

1859 Var 3 625 675

1860 825 900

1861 625 675

1862 625 675

1863 3 over 2 1160 1260

1863 625 675

1864 625 675

1865 625 675

1866 630 680

1867 625 675

1868 625 675

1869 625 675

1869 9 over 8 2000 2350

1870 625 675

1871 625 675

1872 800 875

1873 1550 1700

47640 52190

 

 

Dwaine,

 

Lose the over date (thumbs u and you can knock 2 grand off the set…

 

Much more affordable, eh? :insane:

 

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I quickly calculated a Gem set and it might cost $100000 including overdates. This is about what might be expected for an upgrade from the Choice set above. When you start to move into the truly PQ for grade and PR66 and 67 grades than the curve steepens. BTW not as hard a complete set to collect as MS trimes. I have always thought type 2 proof trimes are greatly undervalued based on census..

 

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A better, more reasonable aim would be to go for 1858-1873 barring the varieties. It's pretty doable from a deep pockets perspective but difficult from the perspective of locating decent examples.

 

1873 is VERY available....ALL over the place! Most, if not nearly all, of that mintage survives due to hoarding.

 

The other dates can be tricky, although the 70's and 1867 pop up with regular frequency.

 

I have 7 dates (1860-PCI 63; 1861,1862,1864,1865,1870 - NGC/PCGS PF64; 1867 PF65Cameo ) and I've been unable to find any other examples for the past couple of years for what I consider reasonable prices. I probably have to raise my price threshold if I want to get more of them.

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The only thing I will warn you about is the quality of PR-64 trimes, as well as other 19th century Proof type coins has dropped over the past year or so. I've learned this lesson as I have tried to add to my type set.

 

Grade-flation is a alive and unwell. :(

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That's it! A great thread got started on Proof Trimes...and it just dies like that! Sorry, I guess I'm taking this personally.

 

I started to reply to this one, but then I thought, "No, I'm going to keep quiet and really stick it to Prethen". Actually, the OP asked about cost to complete and the question was answered quite well. It wasn't a great thread just because it was about proof trimes. Feel free to start your own, but if you want it to be great you need to talk about the coins, not the price guides.

 

I started a collection of trimes in business strikes a few years back. These are much scarcer than the proofs for years after 1862. Unfortunately, these are much scarcer than the proofs after 1862, so I don't have any of the later dates. I'm also finding it difficult to tell the difference between the proofs and business strikes for these years. I think the major grading services get it wrong more than we would like. It makes me leary of paying the business strike premium when I may be getting a proof. Of course with the way the coin market has gone the last few years I'm afraid to buy a lot of things.

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I should qualify that there are very few threads about Proof Trimes and seeing any one, especially talking about the "sweetspot" grade of 64 for pricing and quality is "great" in my opinion. Yes, 64's can be all over the place. If you saw the 64's I own, I think you'd agree that 64 is still a great grade to obtain.

 

I prefer to think that this thread didn't have to be only about pricing. Also, it's impractical for most collectors to even dream about going after ALL Proof trime years, but rather should go after the more "practical" years of 1858-1873 and avoid the expensive varieties that some may view as more esoteric.

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give me a gem business strike 1868 trime with wonderful origiinal coloration and great eye appeal or give me a dinner at the all you can eat shrimp fest at red lobster :foryou:

 

both would be preferable :cloud9:

 

 

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give me a gem business strike 1868 trime with wonderful origiinal coloration and great eye appeal or give me a dinner at the all you can eat shrimp fest at red lobster :foryou:

 

both would be preferable :cloud9:

 

 

The shrimp would be easier and cheaper to come by.

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I have occasionally heard the three cent nickels refered to as trimes. I think these should more appropriately be called "Trickels". :grin:

 

i totally agree!!!!! (thumbs u

 

and now that i think of it i got to get off these here boards as i got to take a trickel along with something else that i will not mention on these boards

 

but if you want to know just pm me and i will tell you in private so to speak :hi:

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