Mojorkr

I am actually not in possession of the coin quite yet as I have just bought it online. The pictures I posted were those provided by the seller. I will post measurements as soon as I can. Thanks again to everyone in this wonderful community! 👍🏻👍🏻

Thanks for the fantastic information Eagle!!! I’m wondering how they actually figured out all of the combinations in order to write multiple books in the subject!?! So if there are that many different combos out there, wouldn’t the most accurate way of telling if they were counterfeit or not would be to just weigh them? I found a tutorial here https://pre1946silver.com/2022/05/13/fake-spanish-8-reales-comparison/ that gives a quick overview of how to spot fakes, with differences in weight being a dead giveaway. Or are some counterfeits out there that good they can actually weigh the same as a genuine coin?

Thank you Greenstang and Sandon for your speedy and educational replies!!! Since the issue of it being possibly counterfeit was brought up, I have now compared it to known exemplars and am quite convinced this is the real deal, but will eventually weigh it for peace of mind. Thanks again to NGC chat board and its wonderful community!! 👍🏻👍🏻

Thank you gentlemen for your replies! In response to JKK, from looking up the Lima database here, the 1799 year was the highest mintage out of all the years from 1791 to 1808. Regardless, it could still be counterfeit and I'm just wondering what aspects of the coin make you think so? Unfortunately I don't have immediate access to a scale, but once I do I'll post the value. What weight should I be looking for? And I was only asking if it might be from a shipwreck as it would add to the 'historical value' for me....along with the chipmarks I feel it adds more to the story behind the coin, as in who actually had it in their possesion over the hundreds of years. To me this aspect of collecting is more important than actual value (although that's nice to know too!) I was tempted to clean it to bring out the oringinal finish, but then came across all the warnings of 'true' collectors that say this only takes away from the coins' value. I don't quite understand this as the coin Powermad5000 posted personally looks much better to me than the one that I have! And also, why would they sell so many different types of coin cleaners if you weren't supposed to? I did read that olive oil can be used as the most 'natural' way of cleaning, but at this point I'm really not sure what to do, as this is the oldest coin that I own.

First time poster here! I have this 1799 8 Reales coin and being a newbie I would like to learn more about it, but apart from finding price charts on this site, I haven’t been able to find much? From what I’ve been able to find out is that this was from the Lima mint (the IJ on the back) and that it may have a ‘chopmark’ on the back left pillar and perhaps on the front right by his chin? Is there a good site you could direct me to that may have more on the history of these coins? From the NGC charts, it shows the mintage for this particular year in Lima at over 5 million, yet there are no mintage numbers from Mexico, yet they have similar value? Also, do chop marks add to the value? Is there any chance this would have come from a shipwreck find? What sort of grading would you give to this particular coin? Thanks for looking!