Shawn11

you do realize people will have all ready read my entire post by the time they get to yours qouting pieces of mine that you feel you can use to accomplish..... (NO CLUE as to what you would even call that???)

man this is just just crazy that all this coukd come from me disagreeing with only the fire portion your heat/fire response which must have been correct since fire was only mentioned once after that (in that manner) and heat is now the group consensus other than me saying i saw characteristic's of strike through(not strike through) you guys went here saying this other that had nothing to do with my question, not me! but in the end a couple of gentkeman offered an actual informative response to my questions rather than its heat damaghe thats all you need to know well im not happy with just knowing what i can see my good freind so my apologies for asking for more information ps. i do believe the coin was improperly annealled prior to the welding rod

wow man, im speechless had no idea you spent your whole day on me and my newbie post now thats devotion unfortunately your recaps accuracy was graded at vg

thank you sir,thats the type of response you would expect from a seasoned collector

man i totally agree...and heat is capable of many things with metals but also very reliable in such that it is contolled properly so my next question improperly annealled is not a possibility....sorry man before i say this i just wanna thank you for answering without a closed mind or rhe self centered attitude of im a vetertan coin collector...the how dare you disagree with me... it is what I/we say it is...type response bht any one with an understanding of metals and heat and/or with anealling(I beleive you do) would know the answer is %100 yes improperly annealled is a possibility (heat related) which in my oppion is more likely then it just being tossed into a fire and then back into circulation now into my pocket. the evedince doesnt support that theory! the damage and surface is consistant with improperly annealled coins what i cant seem to figure out is the 2 areas that are deformed, if bubbling did occur from heat being applied to a localized area wouldnt there be evedince of that directly beneath on the other side of the coin?

thank you... that much heat with out discoloration is possible on coins? honest question not trying to dispute or argue

the 2 areas in question do not match up from front to back they are both in seperate areas on the coin from front to back

ok ill ask it like this why do you think this is heat damagewhat signs do you see that brought you to this determination

ok can someone pls explain to me how the areas (1 on obverse and 1 on reverse) that are not of original design happened

and thank you for the valuable time you gave me,,, guess im wrong thinking that the more i knew about damage would result in knowing more about errors i will try to limit my questions to ones of more interesting subject matter but should i fail then just simply dont respond

oh good lord i never said anyone was wrong yes i did disagree with old hoopster never denied it was damaged nor did i claim it had came from the mint in this conditioni did ask what happened to it and got responses and thats great i appreciate that! as a welder im very familiar with what heat does to metal and disagreed was hoping for other possibilities as to what happened to it but of course your right amd there are no other possibilities heat/fire it is and im just arguing on here

so its only 82-d small date that is rare?

no im not fishing im learning ive yet to claim that it was anything was meerly to trying figure out what happened to it? my original question! seems like everyone one here has tunnel vision when it comes to newbies eager to shut someone down but no help beyond that

whats that supposed to mean

would extreme heat cause more discoloration? like a faked black beauty disstress maybe but how is some of the original image still there

i see some chararistic's of strike through on the reverse and alot of details not imprinted such as date and tree top

disagree on the fire scenario

thickness 0.0575 inches,1.45 mm. width 0.0920 inches, 23.93 mm.

5.6 bout to put calibers on it in a few

you know get it graded and preserve it as is decline the conservation and have incapsulated that way itllalways be the same as when you got it im sure your aunt could appreciate that.... its a really beautiful coin if you ask me

it is zinc and not copper but is that the small date 2

best i can get of it

so they will contact you and ask