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7 hours ago, JKK said:

Depends what you mean by origin. As a counterfeit, its origin is likely modern, and there is no way to know the religious outlook of the counterfeiter (if any). The images, however are decidedly pagan in inspiration. This makes sense because there weren't very many Christians in classical Athens, for the very rational reason that the attributed times of Jesus of Nazareth then lay four hundred years in the future (for perspective, four hundred years ago the Plymouth colony was just beginning; think of all the time between then and now). Anyway, if the issue is that you wouldn't want to put any pagan symbology onto your fingers, definitely don't wear this.

Similarities to Indian ancients, slight resemblance to some Byzantine coinage but clearly not. Strangely, and a personal assumption with no reference, the obverse (i assume again) has a shape like part of a particular sigil (a triangle with horns) which is a symbol of the eye occasionally. It is very interesting no matter it's origin.  I'll continue to search. 1st century or before is likely i think.

20 minutes ago, JKK said:

There's a thing with Mensa scores, sort of like Godwin's Law before real life repealed it. To drop refs to one's Mensaness leans in the direction of belying them. Put another way, if the scores were that high, one wouldn't need to drop references. The reality would speak for itself. Whatever the intent, the actual message received is something like: "I'm aware I'm not looking too smart here, so let me try and counter that perception a little."

It never works. Tell is cheap, show is powerful. This is something I'd think most people with Mensa scores could have used those prodigious intellects to discover.

That comment was for you sir

I concur i was frustrated and being douchy. I apologise. One gets a ton of negative energy from coin collector jerks sometimes, i don't claim to or think i know everything (ANYTHING for that matter) but the things i know are not based on persuasion or EGO v. ID, i just want people to think and it turns to a defensive situation more often than not, due to the mean intelligence (perceived or realized) of collectors. I get swept up in it myself obviously. Thank you for your analysis.

Athena, aphrodite, inanna/ishtar, lady liberty all the same. For some reason people (typically) have 2000 year (give or take) knowledge of human history. Everything you know is a lie, all coins come from the same place (ultimately) and looking all the way back and moving forward will always be beneficial to a realistic perspective of our existence. And it's an Athenian owl coin replica (most likely replica) both of them. Tetradrachm technically. Derived from the symbols of Athena, the owl (later an 🦅😉😉 adapted from depictions of inanna), the olive tree/branch (from the reeds held by inanna and used also in MOST currency) and finally an adaptation of the spear, the distaff and the aegis (a shield of goatskin), (you guessed it) also used by and depicted with lady liberty (weird). Or you know, whatever the geniuses after me say it is.... I'm just some a-hole.

On 4/10/2019 at 2:11 PM, Mohawk said:

That's a good plan Bsshog.......I don't think that these will maintain the level of pricing that they're at currently down the road.  As I said in another thread, these are kind of like a fad, I think.  They're hot now, but they won't stay hot.  In the 90's, there were some Beanie Babies that sold for thousands.  Now they languish unsold in thrift shops with 99 cent price tags and forgotten about in totes in attics.  I don't think that these W quarters will likely be forgotten about as badly as Beanie Babies, but the prices will come down to more sane levels.  How low I don't know, but the 1996-W dime, with a mintage of under 2 million, can be had for less than $20 raw. 

Don't you speculate anymore

On 12/5/2018 at 11:46 PM, Queen_Coin_Star said:

Who drew/sculpted the original portrait of Charles III & IV that appear on the Spanish Reales? I read Jeronimo Antonio Gil was the head engraver at the Mexican mint and that he produced special medals commemorating the coronation of Charles III, death of Charles III, and coronation of Charles IV, but who created the bust images featured on the reales?

They were all created at the same place, same time. Shhhh don't tell.

You wouldn't believe the answer🧿👁️👀👁️‍🗨️🕵️‍♂️

nobody's going to believe me but I'm holding a 2019 West point, Guam DDO/ddr