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ddr70

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  1. ddr70
    A saddle struck 1998 FS-901 in a Triple Struck holder and a Broadstruck with reverse indent, both with the proof-type, separated AM, FS-901 reverse. They have been apart since at least 2007, now together in my collection again.
    I found my mate! It's a beaut! A 1998 1C FS-901 Wide AM/Proof Die Reverse, broadstruck (BS) slightly off center with a reverse brockage and residing in an NGC 65RD holder. This makes a mated pair with my 1998 1C FS-901 Triple Struck wide AM in an NGC 55RD holder. You can see the pair in my non-competitive blurst of '98 set along with mostly 1998 dated errors. Note that the Triple Struck coin came first, providing the IN TRUST design needed to form the reverse brockage on the reverse of the BS coin. Now I'm stuck explaining that the triple strike is really a saddle strike probably on a quad die coin press. Note that the obvers design with WE TRUST showing (and corresponding reverse E CENT. What's the separation on a quad die press? Take a look at this article and you will see this is certainly a saddle strike.
    http://www.coinworld.com/Articles/ViewArticle/saddle-strikes-record-changes-in-press-design
    That sliver of the third strike shows no slide zone as the coin is struck between two die pairs.
    WHERE WAS SHE?
    I found her in the Stacks Auction which is a site I rarely visit. For some reason I decided to browse lots earlier in the month. The wide AM reverse made finding my mate easier (how many FS-901s are in error holders?). I've been looking since August 2007 when I won the triple struck coin on an eBay auction. Pretty lucky to do so in only 6 years I'd say!
    If you are the consignor of the coin to Stacks (or a former owner), please feel free to contact me here as I'd like to add the provenance to this pair. I got to wonder how this pair ever became separated?

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  2. ddr70
    Snow of the Indian head cent kind...
    ...Been meaning to check my 1862 1C with 45 Deg CW Rotated Die against Snow's latest Attribution Guide. I had seen that a S4 comes with a 30 Deg rotation--neat coin with misplaced 1s in the denticles to the right of the date. Oddly enough, you have to check the date position to ensure it's not a S11--the mint made two dies like this??!! And I added an 1887 S2 to my IHC set. I've been waiting on a nice variety to fill that slot. The 1862 is in an error holder, so I can't compete it in my IHC set; however, it is in my Rotated Dies Signature set (I know its not signature sets in coins, but I can't remember what they call them).

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  3. ddr70
    Why is TRUST touching the 1 in the date (1998)??
    Why does this only appear on the 2d strike and not the first?
    Why didn't NGC note this when they graded and slabbed the coin?This is my second journal entry about a 1998 TS Cent. The first was about my now mated pair of 1998 FS-901 proof Reverse error cents about 18 months ago. A different error story this time. One that occurs as I had some time to enjoy looking at coins this weekend. I was thinking about finding a mate to this Non-FS-901 rather boring 1998 1C Triple Struck--it's out there. I found out this coin maybe is NOT so boring. And now I'm in need of a 1998 1C counter clashed coin... if you see one let me know! There's answer one (I think) from above as to why is TRUST touching the 1 in the date. (more below including the answer to the 2d question...). First, Two Dates. Dramatic off-center second striking (uniface Obv) and just a sliver of the third strike (die struck both sides). The second strike has TRUST appearing in the field in front of Lincoln with the last T touching the 1 in the date and is thus unusual (I'm glad the first T is there as otherwise I would have RUST appearing in the field :-). [that was coin humor]. A Type II counter-clash occurs when a die strikes a piece of hard metal. It could be a die fragment, a collar fragment, a stray nut, etc. [i'd be interested in this of course--again, let me know if you have it]. The initial strike leaves a die-struck design on the metal fragment. The fragment then shifts position within the striking chamber and is struck again. The second strike transfers the design back to the die face (typically just the field portion). The die face now carries an incuse, mirror image version of the design. Every planchet coined after this will have raised normally-oriented design elements in an unexpected location. So, the first die was not the same as the second die as only the second has the counter clashed "TRUST" now touching the date. Possibly this coin is saddle struck just like my FS-901 TS '98 that most certainly is saddle struck probably in a quad die press. I don't know why NGC did not note this rather neat error on error and the auctioneer didn't notice either and I didn't notice until today. I think that I got a really good deal on this coin now! I've updated the comments in my 'signature error set', the Blurst of '98 and you can see the FS-901 98 mated pair there as well. There's an example of a counter clashed Canadian Quarter in my world error signature set. Hope I didn't get this wrong--let me know if I did! I would hate to be in error.To see old comments for this Journal entry, click here. New comments can be added below.
  4. ddr70
    Back in February, NGC and PMG decided to discontinue the Numisma-Quest Numismatic Trivia contest. We were to "Stay tuned for other exciting promotions and events". Ok, I'm still tuned in for what those exciting promotions and events might be.
    I stayed a paid member back in January to a small extent because of the possibility of winning a few trivia contests. Then a month later they were pulled.
    Do you need ideas for those exciting events and promos? How about submit a note for PMG grading, get one free. Or submit 5 coins, get one free NCS conservation. Or even better for me... submit and NGC certified coin where NGC made a mistake, get it corrected for free.
    I could think of more as I'm sure could others...
    Any interest NGC/PMG?? Let me know ;-)
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  5. ddr70
    there's a 30 degree out there as well...
    My friend at work found out that I had an interest in coins when we stopped in a shop I found next to my favorite Indian buffet. I picked out an Indian Head cent folder, green and used and of a type that I like. She mentioned a bag of coins collected through her travels, but said there's nothing old in the bag and surely nothing of value. I said that she might be surprised at the catalog value of some relatively recent world coins and if we found anything I'd get them into some holders for protection. My friend had traveled extensively with a number of Japanese 100 yens, German marks and pfennigs, coins from Finland, Britain and the Netherlands. There were a number of wheat cents and I began to find 1909 VDB cents up to AU condition, however, no S mints unfortunately. And then I discovered the coin that interested me most. It was an 1859 Indian Head Cent, nice details, some corrosion, with a 30 degree die rotation. That cent is now in the green folder (along with the '09 VDBs which make up a nice series from about fine to AU) with a note that the dies are rotated. I figured I must have gotten that folder to give that lone cent a nicer home than a baggie. The wheaties came from grandma and obviously someone had picked out the '09 VDBs. Hopefully her kids enjoy the coins. The '59 in the picture is in my IHC collection and it has about a 90 degree die rotation. If you're a fan of rotated dies, I can tell you that for 1859, there's a 30 degree out there as well...
    1859_1C_PC
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    Die cracks, die lines or clash marks?
    They are cracks; will update with the OBV # from Snow once I get a chance. This obv. apparently paired with a Ty 1 reverse here and Ty 2 reverse(s). 1870 Cent Type I Rev Obv. 20: (RE) Die crack from the base of 18 to the rim at 7:00. Heavy die crack from the rim at 8:30 through UNIT and the bust point continuing in the field above the date parallel to the date. Also paired with S25 DDR, this example with at Ty I REV.I was looking at my 1870 Cent. It has two curved lines, which follow about the same path, one though the date and the second, longer line through the bust, to UNIT and to the rim. They don't appear to be cracks now that I look at them, as a crack should propogate through the letters and from the field through the bust... the lines stop at the letters and then continue on the other side! I know one of the listed cherrypicker's guide varieties has a curved die line though the head (don't have my guide handy--but it's not an 1870). CP Guide lists an 1865 with a curved line through the headress. Also, 1864 Snow 11 has circular lines on portrait.1870_1C_NG
  7. ddr70
    Customer Service/quality control: Does it exist at NGC?
    I finally used my 5 free submissions to crossover (attempt) some of my better ANACS slabbed coins. Here's what I sent: 1806 O-116 50C ANACS 50, (did not cross, labeled environmental damage) ANACS 55 1845-O FS-50-1845O-303(WB 108/VP-003) w/variety plus (crossed, but no variety plus designation), ANACS 58 1840 FS-50-1840-301 (crossed, but again, no variety plus designation), ANACS 61 1855 Arrows 50C (crossed), 1872 G$1 ANACS 60 (did not cross, cleaned). Of the two that did not cross, I thought those better candidates than the seated halves (have much worse slabbed in NGC holders). But the kicker is paying for the variety plus fee and getting nothing (these varieties aren't difficult to see). emails aren't returned (except one that was totally wrong with respect to the variety plus mix up--what a poor, pitiful attempt to answer my question). So 3 for 5 plus an extra $14 for nought (OK, I'll live with my coins in their ANACS holders) but a big F on variety plus and customer communications. So, I'm just a free loader on the society now in protest. The newly NGC-slabbed halves are in my reg set, but I need to scan them.
    Maybe I'll crackout the 1806 and submit (thru dealer). I'd like to see the edge and it's potentially a 53 or 55. So, why don't lettered edge coins from the 1800 get the new edge view type of holder as an option???
    Hope this provides someone a point of reference... didn't mean to rant. Well maybe a little ;-)
  8. ddr70
    If the grading service is authenticating a coin, isn't it easier to authenticate when the variety is published? So why the extra fee?
    So the grading service sees a double die and has to look in a reference book to compare. Isn't that their 'job'? Kinda what you hired them to do... authenticate the coin. How much easier to authenticate a coin is that; it's published? Yet it's gonna cost you an extra $7 at NGC, assuming they even bothered to update their reference library--or look at it. Must be that extra ink on the label... that's it ;-). Check out my 1869 Repunched Date, FS 8.5 er.... except it's just a Snow 10 RPD. Think it will cost me the $10 to "un-variety" plus this one?

  9. ddr70
    Rotated Dies on Sac $'s, Indian Head Cents, Statehood Quarters, and a pair of Quarter Eagles.
    I decided to consolidate my rotated die collection into a signature set under mint errors. Too bad many are in ANACS holders. One of my favorites is this 1865 3C Copper Nickel (see image this post). Enjoy.